Will This Be on the Test? Transcripts
Today is gonna be a day of technical difficulties here on Will This Be On the Test? I think
I think it is we had way too good luck so far.
Yeah, I hit record in Audacity and it was like, Hey, we're not gonna work but we're not gonna tell you why. So Hi everybody and welcome to Will This Be On the Test? I'm Maddie. I'm Austin and I'm making sure it's still recording bap bap bap bow I'm singing. I'm sorry for that everybody.
I'm cutting that out. Are you though? No. Cuz I think I'm lazier than I am capable of shame.
It's about time. Everybody heard that your voice though so you can begin your beginning of singing career.
This is how I get discovered. And the next thing you know, I am Lady Gaga in a star is born. I love that movie. It's a great movie.
I will say that is one of the things we do around the house is we loudly thing kind of at each other almost.
I think mostly about our cats. And how they smell bad.
We I do, too but once in a while we go through a crazy ex girlfriend Medley together
and I was really really sad to hear about their their songwriter. Yeah, he passed away from Coronavirus. I don't want to get his name wrong. It was I want to say Adam slice singer, but I don't remember. His name was Adam. I know that and I was really sad to hear about that cuz he's done such cool stuff like he did that thing you do. And he had he was fountains of Wayne.
Yeah, he was fountains. He was fountains of Wayne.
If you've never watched crazy ex girlfriend, it's on Netflix. And you should it is one of the smartest shows in the last 10 years easily.
That's a very smart, funny hour long musical comedy,
but it hits on very real things. And the comedy doesn't distract from that like it sometimes makes fun of the series things handling. And this manages to not do that. This is all about you know, it's a show about mental illness at the end of the day. And it recognizes it in a way where it's this is a human condition that many of us live with. And that's okay. Yeah, we're all gonna be okay at the end. Yes. And it's and that's not a spoiler because most show isn't like
that Rachel bloom is wonder Austin's in love with her. I've been in love with her ever since she released her first big song where she got kind of famous. The music video of fuck me, Ray Bradbury.
I think you're the one who shared that with me when that first came out. And I was living on the east coast and you were here and yeah, but awesome. I only been together for a few years, not especially long, but we had known each other for 17 years. Yeah,
it's we've been saying 13 years for the last four years now. And it's been much longer than that.
We refuse to admit that we're over the age of 3030.
Is that an age you can be?
Well, I mean, once you hit 30, you stop existing.
It's true. It's like you just
that's why we never even saw Jessica on love is blind,
because we just kept hearing it for and Mark was 34 Is that opposite? Oh, that's right. She was 34 mark with how can I get that wrong? It's like
Jessica, we would hear this voice saying I'm 34 And we're like, Who and What is 34? We couldn't see her. Yeah. We're going a little quarantine stir crazy over here. Yeah, but we've actually managed to not kill each other so far yet, yet. Oh, I do scare him. Because once in a while, I think, you know, it'd be a really good way to kill someone. And then I go into detail and he quickly realizes I'm not wrong.
She's like, she says, boy does a great way to kill somebody. And then she just spouts off this incredibly detailed, thought out. Murder play. I'd like it's something everybody just has in their back pocket to bring up in discussion while I bring the naked pizza. Well,
I was talking about, like, how many people do you think are actually dead but other ones whose everybody assumes they're on quarantine, followed by I wonder how many of them are murdered and they're like taking this opportunity to find the best way to dispose them. them, especially because most of us don't have access to a great deal of sardine oil and tigers.
No, I mean, we have we have zero sardine oil and I think between the four of our cats one 10th of a tiger,
I don't know fezzik weighs about as much as the tiger.
Oh my god. I know fezzik is like roughly the same size as the as a newborn baby tiger.
He's not the son. Isn't he about the weight of like a small Bobcat? Yeah, but you know, without the ferocity, or fluff Enos,
oh my god. fezzik is like the least ferocious cat I've ever seen.
I have this cat. Isabel, who was my soulmate. This cat was my soulmate. My grandma called me one day and she said, I hear you're looking for a cat. I have one for you. Long story short, she was dying and my grandma saved her and brought her inside and she was hiding under the futon. And I got on the floor to look at her and I swear to God, I thought my grandma had brought a bobcat inside. Like she had this giant eyes and she had the coloring and the firm a bobcat, and she was so angry. But I finally got her to come out and she ended up being just my Isabelle
She was the best cat and I said as someone who loves our four cats, Isabel was better than all of our cats.
Austin was a dog person and then Isabel came along and changed pet okay now but we're getting into a downer now. Yeah, she was the best everybody and right now guys, everybody it's a good time to adopt an animal you're any way you can get them acclimated you can get used to each other. So if you have the means contact your local shelter go adopt the cat. Yeah, dog, a guinea pig a rabbit that you'll find them all in
a turtle. There are turtles up for adoption. Did you see
the thing about these 70,000 endangered sea turtles laying eggs in India because the beach was empty? Yes. And how cool is that?
It's amazing how much better the world is without us around?
Oh, my God, I'm loving all the photos of the wildlife taking back over like the bears just walking through the streets. I Am Legend got some stuff, right?
Of course my personal favorite. The two pandas in the zoo, who haven't had sex in 10 years and finally another there aren't people around them all the time. Finally are having sex like
they're just not into voyeurism guys.
Yeah, it's like pandas are super vanilla.
But there is a great live stream. I think it's on the Atlanta Zoo where you can watch their pandas all day and pandas. I never knew how they work. So we go to the zoo, they're like, screw you. Ah, they are having the best time like they're chasing. It's like watching our cats when they're on catnip.
Yeah, there is like, Oh, another great way to pass some time instead of just you know, binge watching a horrifying murder shows on Netflix like we do is you can also watch animal cams and they are pretty fun till
they are they are my work we over the video thing where like, like today's animal cam that we have playing off to the side. So if we start to get like, overloaded we're like, I'm gonna watch this video of otters for five minutes and it's great. So who was first this week? Oh, wait, we are Will This Be On the Test? The show that covers the things that you didn't learn didn't learn fully or learned incorrectly in school?
Yes, I think that covers it. We were starting off strong this week. We are showing our professionalism, our skill. And like everything we've learned in the past 30 episodes of recording is coming up in the boy.
We are professionals at this professionals, I say, we actually did get our six iTunes review. Thank you to whoever that was, and we really loved it like that was unary It's good. It's nice
to hear some good news and nice stuff, like right now. Yeah.
And if you're another podcaster, like, feel free to connect, we'll listen to you like we love podcasts. And we've been listening to the same ones for a couple of years now. I do I am trying to like when I'm hearing other podcasters like I'm gonna listen to them now.
Yeah, I recently listened to some people do a review of the movie predator. And now I want to watch predator two again.
Oh, what was it was called shoot the flag. Shoot the flick? Yeah,
yes, I'm talking about predator. And it's like, they're talking about how predator two is bad. It's like, Whoa, I remember Danny Glover in predator two and I thought it was pretty good, but I haven't seen it since I was 10. So I don't know if it's Ashley. Good are not 10 year olds don't know what good movies are.
I listened to them talk about Moulin Rouge say yeah, shoot the flick is a good one if you like hearing a married couple talk about things. Yeah. And in this case movies,
talk about movies that one of them hasn't seen that the other one likes. That's a good concept. So who goes first this week? I think it's you because I went first last week.
Okay, so my topic this week, I could not think of one. And then Austin mentioned, I'm going to spoil it
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that Euler was talking about sharks. And so I made a joke about how I should talk about jets and we can do Westside story. I wish I could snap right now because I can't snap. Snap can't snap me see. Looks like this is great. podcasting right here. me trying to snap Okay, do you
want to see my mad snapping skills? Sure.
Wow, it's like we You're like a one man rubber right there.
Oh, I can switch sides and everything. Wow, I know. Great podcasting happening right now. I'll teach you how to snap later. You can try it. Neither one of us can whistle
Nope. We can't
whistle and you can't curl your tongue take care of my
tongue can't snap.
Anyway, Westside story, I could do and have considered doing an entire episode about the history of West Side Story and why it fills me with rage.
Is it because Officer krupke was not really respected as he should have been as a law enforcement officer?
Yes, that's exactly okay. No, it's I wrote a paper on it in grad school. And it's just got this really like, frightening history behind its productions. And it's complete lack of understanding of what Puerto Rico is, including the fact that it is in fact part of America. I feel like Donald Trump everything he learned knows about Puerto Rico from that movie, and therefore thinks they're not in America.
Yeah. Oh, my God, that makes perfect sense. He probably doesn't Well, no, because then he would have realized that Puerto Rico was an island much earlier than he did. It took him a long time to figure that out.
Like that governor in Georgia or whatever, who just figured out that Coronavirus can be asymptomatic. Like dude, he's the one who beat Stacey Abrams, right?
Yeah, I bet she knows that can be asymptomatic. I'm pretty sure Stacey Abrams knows everything and we would be like why isn't Stacey Abrams running for president? I was opposed
to Stacey from what not to where
she's the devil Stacey from what not to where is the devil Stacey Abrams?
I believe Stacey from what not to wear. His last name is Abraham, which is why I was always getting confused.
Oh my God, is that the entire confusion? And when I said, it's like, boy, I really hope that Biden picks Stacey Abrams to be a choice. You looked at me with just oh, I understand now.
But you also understand that why I think Tulsi Gabbard is a Disney villain. It's the gray streak. Yeah,
I got him to watch what not to wear this week. That show is like it's it's it's mean and it's predatory. And I'm almost not okay with it. But oh my god,
you spend the time judging Stacy and Clinton not the person who's getting read. Yeah,
most of the time. It's like the person getting redone. It's like, Okay,
well anyway, also gonna be talking about sharks. I was like, I should talk about jets. And so I started looking up the history of jets and I couldn't find anything that really drew me in. So if you're looking at the history of planes and nothing really drew me in that I hadn't learned pretty thoroughly in school. Those are looking at pilots. And before I began, my sources are Wikipedia, the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. If you ever get a chance to go to that, and to the annex, you should go women in aviation international Asian reporter calm the post star, the Jefferson City post Tribune, the Albany democrat Herald and 99 dot org. That's a lot of sources. Yeah. So in school, we learned a lot about certain famous people who were involved in the history of flight
amilia. I heard Charles Lindbergh and the Wright brothers.
Yes. I also learned about barrel Markham, who was the first I didn't write down the notes the first person to fly east to west across the Atlantic from England to the United States. I only learned about her because I had to read her memoir in high school. I've actually talked about reading her memoir and how much I hated it. They brought up at least Bessie Coleman, who was the first African American and Native American female pilot they might have mentioned Eugene Bullard the first African American military pirate pilot.
That's a big difference between pilot and pirate.
I don't know. Can you be an air pirate? I guess you can. I am the captain now of this plane.
Sky pirates coming soon.
And we also learned about the Tuskegee Airmen, except for the rights and Amelia Earhart. Of course, none of these people got enough screen time, so to speak in the classroom. But I'm gonna be talking about two who were never mentioned. At least not in my classes. Mary riddle. And Leah hang. Did either of them ever come up to you? Nope. Cool. Well, not cool,
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but glad that you're starting fresh. starting fresh. I don't know anything.
Mary riddle was the second Native American woman and the first full blooded Native American woman to earn a pilot's license. We usually focus on the first which would of course have been Bessie Coleman, like I mentioned, but this one did some pretty cool stuff. She was also the first Native American woman to achieve nothing. Just a pilot's license but also her commercial license. Oh, she was born in Bruce Port Washington was a member of the cats cats off tribe in Oregon and the quinault Indian nation in Washington. While we call her Mary riddle, her tribal name I'm not sure the official term is for that was Christie Chow or Kingfisher, which was given to her by her grandmother as at the moment of her birth, the kingfishers began to make a lot of noise. kingfishers are of course, birds. And so an article from the Jefferson City post Tribune in 1943 posited that maybe this was a sign of things to come that the birds made noise about her birth and basically invited her to fly with them. Oh, but that's that's some fancy fancy prose, right? That
is that is some goddamn Disney Princess shit right there. Huh?
Well, she was beautiful. She looked like a Disney Princess. She saw her first plane when she was 11. Can you imagine not seeing a plane at all until you were 11? This was no I mean, that's like I was a little bit ago. I grew up in a family that traveled a lot. My dad traveled for work. I've never I'm sure my first plane ride was when I As a toddler, if not younger, and I burst an eardrum on a plane once so I must I apologize to anybody who's around screaming five year old me with my eardrum burst.
I remember my first time i was on an airplane. The first time I remember anyway, was like we're going somewhere. And like, there's like some like problem with the plane. So we're just stuck on the runway for forever. So I fell asleep and I didn't wake up until we had landed. And I was like, hey, Austin's like, Are we on the ground? Like, yeah, it's like, we still haven't left. We were already there.
I took a flight once and we had to get off on the tarmac for some reason, like down the stairs and cross the tarmac. And I was asleep. When the flight landed. My aunt was carrying me and I kept pretending to be asleep.
I didn't want to walk. Kids are awesome. You've done that to me. Never carried
a polar than you. Anyway, when Mary riddle was 17 she saw a female pilot who fatally crashed, like she would go to all these air shows stopping a planet. And it's I think our first female pilot was the idea that I Who fatally crashed her plane. So that moment made Mary realize that people needed to have proof that women could fly as well as men. It was widely believed that women couldn't and she was afraid that this particular instance would further that belief. So for two years, she saved up every penny she could to attend the Rankin flying school in Portland, which was run by a dude named Tex winkin Tex Rankin Tex Rankin, who I will get back to. She was a fast learner and made her first solo flight on May 10 1930. She said she wasn't at all afraid, just had to learn to make adjustments on the fly. Oh, to make up for the missing weight of her instructor because it was a small plane and the weight matters. That same year she was featured in the 1930 Portland rose festival, given the times and understanding kind of where she was in society and how to get people to buy in. She wrote wore full Native American costume. And I do mean like costume level costume and rode a horse up to her plane.
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Which of course that is Listen, that is some theatrics right there and
essentially actrix ends like, on the one hand you look at it and go, Oh, you know, but on the other hand, it's like she knew how to play to an audience. She knew how to get buy in. And so that meant she knew how to make it for jobs. I also hate that this still happens but whatever. She was also featured on the cover of a June 3 1934 magazine called the 99 are now called the 99. The group is still around, which was entirely about female fliers on the cover. She had the quote, come on, let's help fill the sky with Thunderbirds, once again, playing into her audience knowing that they were and she was also once again the full costume and she had braids. She had a feather the whole nine yards she was doing for this and then making quotes like that she knew her audience. So for better or for worse, she knew how to make that money. She later went to the Spartan school in Tulsa to learn how to parachute like a crazy person because only crazy people do that.
Why would you want to jump out of a premium
we're really afraid of heights. I do want people who died on the way down because they're so afraid. That's a real thing that happens. Yeah, the school was all male and she had to beg and plead for two weeks to be allowed in. And she actually ultimately was the affer mentioned Jefferson City post Tribune article, which again, written in 1943 actually saw the reason behind this, saying Mary had to buck prejudice against her sex, no flier at first would consent to take her up for a jump. But finally she met a young man who wanted a publicity stunt to open a new flying field and a woman parachute jumper especially an Indian was just the thing. So this is a Jefferson City Missouri article going yeah, she had to fight because there was undue prejudice and then that prejudice was turned into opportunity. But guys, it was still fucking prejudice. Yeah. Which I thought was pretty cool for 1943 article. The article was actually like, highly complimentary of probably the entire time basically saying like, she's a badass, look at these new badass and she's doing she agreed to go with this dude, despite the fact that he had never had someone jump out of his plane before. Hmm. But the jump was successful and she became a professional jumper after that, too. During the US on the voice of Washington, which was said to be the largest try motor plane in the world and ultimately completing 40 jumps. She nearly died when a pair foot parachute malfunction because crazy people parachute and it became tangled in her legs. But it still wasn't until the next year when she just had a back injury and couldn't do it anymore. Oh, gosh. Then World War Two happened. Yep. And this brought restrictions to civilian aircraft, so she couldn't fly anymore because she didn't have any other kind of licensure. So she joined the US Air Force's civil service saying I had to be near airplanes, even if I could not fly them. She ended up in Missouri, which is why the Jefferson City poster being reported on her working as an aluminum sheetmetal worker in the repair shops of the airfield. She ultimately also ended up inspecting civilian aircraft and became an aircraft maintenance advisor. I was sort of a guinea pig really on account of being the only woman but I got along fine. And there were people who were like, I don't want to work with a woman. I don't want her to be in charge of me. I don't and she's and she's also probably like she's dead. Currently only only native woman who's there probably one of the few if the only native person there. So there was some mistrust that came with the times, but she was like, Fuck you. I know how to do this probably better than you do. Yeah,
I get by by being better than everybody else.
She had completed more parachute jumps than most paratroopers ever would in their career. After the war ended, she moved to New York and become a receptionist but continue to fly and she died in October of 1981 at the age of 79. So she had a very long fulfilling career. And that's her nutshell. Moving on to Leah Hinton and the two are connected in a very tangental way that involves texts. Okay, back to like I said, Leah was the first Chinese woman American to earn her pilot's license. When she was a child. She attended school and worked on her father's hops ranch alongside her three siblings,
hops ranch like they are like hops like for beer. Yes. Okay.
I also saw stuff that said that he was like he did like the oriental medicine stuff. Like if he did base everything I wrote about him. He was totally like blowing smoke up people's asses.
Like stops as medicine. Hops hops will cure hemorrhoids Yeah,
he was like yeah, this did, especially for the time did really well for himself and it was clearly fucking brilliant. So he would have looked at and gone. I can make some money off these dumb asses like, but by most accounts he had a hops farm. Interestingly, when she was 20 she danced in the 1927 Portland rose festival with a 17 other Chinese girls, two of whom would also become pilots. Wow. And one of whom would become a women of the women Air Force service pilots in World War Two also called the wasps. She actually died in combat I kind of briefly saw but she's not the subject of what I'm doing today. That same year, Leah and five other women founded the Portland Chinese girls orchestra when when she played the saxophone. This girl had one crazy fucking life like just hang on to your feet under your What do you hang on to
your butts? Daniel Jackson said hang on to your butts and Jurassic Park. So okay, cool. I'm holding on to my but
they ultimately joined the honorable Wu's vaudeville troupe and toured America during a time when, when few if any real jobs were open to Chinese American women. She said though, that she recognized that they were a novelty act, they were all female. They wore traditional Chinese clothing, etc. And they only knew one song. in Chicago. She took her first airplane airplane ride at a school for Chinese American pilots and she was absolutely hooked up to that went home to Portland decided to become a pilot in 1931, Portland opened a Chinese American flying school specifically so that students could become fighter pilots in the second sino Japanese war heroes.
Yes, very briefly as like a preamble to World War Two.
I never once heard about the sino Japanese war, let
alone second one. Some war crimes of a level that is shocking happened.
Yeah, I considered going down the rabbit hole but I was like, Nope, that's not the topic today. Lia wanted to go to this fighter pilot school and become a fighter pilot. Her dad said no. But he did let her buy a plane. again back to the fact that this dude knew what was up and he was also very wealthy for the time for him, especially when he bought his daughter a plane. She would later use that plane to perform an air shows while she was managing the Chinese tea garden restaurant what your dad invested in. She met Tex Rankin, who had also taught Mary riddle now I can't find anything saying that Mary and Leah ever met. Because Mary was at the school two years before Leah came in Tex Rankin those said that Leah was a ridiculously fast learner stating I tried to cut down this quote, but I realized that it wouldn't make sense if I cut out parts of it. The first lesson consists of control exercises the use of rudder and the extremes full rudder to the right and full letter to the left rudder to the left, and the use of the ailerons banking the ship vertically to the left and then to the right, and the use of the elevators diving in and zooming the ship several times. The trick is to learn to use all three together this missing did after only 10 minutes at At the end of 15 minutes, she pulled the throttle back and put the ship into a glide at landing it with little difficulty. I coached her through the speaking tube, but she did everything right. That's unusual for the first time for anyone. Wow. Yeah. And he did it in 10 fucking minutes.
So I can't even figure out basic shit like trying to like a new recipe in 10 minutes like hold on I got to do what or like trying to put together IKEA furniture in 10 minutes. Oh
God or the other day when we told we were hanging out with your cousin online and I couldn't figure out zoom.
It was like Saturday Night Live with
at Bryan and Kate. If you've not watched it live from this week, they all recorded from their own homes and it's killer like they did such a good job.
their houses are so wonderful. Hmm. Especially Tom Hanks is Tom Hanks. adopt me, please.
So you might wonder why in a time when women weren't occur encouraged to hold jobs at all, let alone women of color and let alone become pilots, Tex Rankin decided to take them on. Well, he had the goal of creating a quote rainbow all female stunt team,
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less impressed by Tex Rankin.
I know, I am so conflicted on this because on the one hand, picking people entirely based on race and gender is icky. But on the other hand, this is the 1930s. And this dude is not only willing to work with women, but women of color, and assume that they can do something as unbelievable back then as fly planes. I have really mixed feelings on this. If it was now I'd be like, you're a disgusting person. When I was in the ball, I would say
based on the time period, this is more good than bad. Yeah,
basically, he was relatively progressive.
It does sound like they were able to do any of this because they were a novelty. And that might be like the first step and stuff like that. It's like, Oh, look at this novelty then. Oh, she's actually good. Maybe and
notice in his quote about Leo No at no point did he say this is unusual for a woman
This is unusual for any for
anyone. Um, so he actually did like actively encourage these women and he actively taught them and he taught them to do some crazy shit because it was in a Flying Circus is what it was Flying Circus like
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The reason a big part of the reason the net the group never happened was that Mary riddle homophobe off.
Yeah, that's very relevant to that.
Leah hang on the other hand, actually stuck around with him for a while and performed in his aerial show. Now the aerial shows that she was involved with for like the ones that we see at festivals today because Midwesterners are super into their jet shows. Yeah, but in the 1930s with those planes, the fact that no one will not no one lost people died. The fact that not everybody
Leah hing was in a couple of airplane crashes. She walked away from both of them. Wow. One of them her plane flipped entirely over after hitting a public Whole By the way, and she was like, Oh damn, I gotta get my plane fixed now she was fine. Yeah, she joined the Air trip and it was reported in the post star of Glenwood Glen falls New York in 1932 that she wanted to be the quote Miss Lindbergh of China. I never found a damn thing where she said that that sounds like a dude writing for the media trying to make it okay that there's a woman and a Chinese woman at that who is doing something that Charles Lindbergh
get, you know, who also would hate to hear anyone's that her say that more than anyone else is Charles Lindbergh because he was a huge fucking racist.
Yeah, I didn't even get into that on the Dr. Seuss episode. I was like, rabbit hole rabbit holes.
Oh, God. Okay, avoiding that rabbit hole because that's a big rabbit hole.
It's like, everybody avoid certain rabbit holes. I think about the people on the internet who was like, Oh, you're talking about Dr. Seuss. But you're not going into Charles Lindbergh. That must mean you're okay with everything Charles Lindbergh did no, I'm staying on topic. Can you have Imagine like people like that clearly forgot how to write a five paragraph essay,
or they never learned in the first place like, Oh my God, if our podcast was like the conversations we have, everything would just devolve into us trying to sort all of Parks and Recreation into their Hogwarts houses.
We can talk about that at the end. We definitely spend about two hours doing that with Parks and Rec and several other shows. Yep, you'll get to hear my supernatural argument. But anyway, the Miss Lindbergh I lost my spot. She never said as far as I could see that she wanted to be called Miss Lindy and yes, they went with that. But she did say a country sees only through the eyes of its fliers, meaning that women and particularly Chinese women would be better seen as people if they could hold those jobs regularly. Yeah. Leah hang decided her ultimate goal was to move to China and become an aviation instructor for Chinese women, saying I believe that women can learn to fly as easily as men and that eventually there will be just as many women flying as men. I'll go into the staff later. Unfortunately, that never materialized during World For two, she worked at the Portland Air Force Base repairing flight instruments and she enlisted in the West Coast Civil Air Patrol to fight to fly recon missions. I could not find any more information about that. And I'm so bummed because I want to know what she was doing on these recon missions. She and other Chinese people had to wear buttons clarifying that they were Chinese.
We didn't talk about that in school. No, I guess not.
No, it's like, somehow we were just told like they rounded up the Japanese people and put them in internment camps. They never talked about the fact that white people can't tell the difference between the different Asian races. So we had to have people wearing buttons, kind of like the people in Nazi Germany had to identify themselves as you know, Jewish to not end up in internment camps. But she actually I didn't write down her quote, but basically it was it's I know, I do know that they said that I am Chinese basically, because they're very proud of the fact that they were Chinese. Okay. She said something a little bit racist after that. No, basically, we were very proud that we were Chinese and we didn't want to be lost. But those Japanese is more or less what she said. I should have left that quote in because I do try to not hear five people and she is very easily hero FIDE, but she also kind of makes up for it later and away. Yeah, but basically they wore them so they wouldn't accidentally be put in internment camps or in her case, especially because she was working on military planes to not scare people into thinking she was some kind of terrorist during the war. She was also denied interest in aviation club because she was Chinese. Later, though, when the cop when Congress repealed the Chinese Exclusion Act, which I never heard about
what I had not heard about this either.
That was an actual act that had to be repealed because China was an ally now, so we have to stop excluding them. I didn't go down the rabbit hole. That might be a topic for another day.
might be another topic for another time. We are. This is fascinating. We have lots I have lots of topics for another time, too.
She became the first woman of color to work at the aero club aaro which was a social club. She was a hatchet girl, a switchboard operator and a photographer staying there. Until she retired at the age of 70. Wow. And she had a lot of other cool shit too. She became the secretary treasurer of her local branch of the 99th. I mentioned them earlier and I have a feeling that the writer of the Albany democrat Herald was not happy that he couldn't call her Mrs. man's name, like he did with Mrs. Howard burlison vice chairman, he had to call her Miss Leah hing. She was so good at this, that even in the days before the internet, she was able to find out when members from other chapters were in town and contact them to let them know about upcoming meetings. Wow. She also worked with immigrants who were navigating the citizenship project process, becoming so good at it that people went to her instead of to a lawyer. She also managed the Chihuahua Hooper's a all girls basketball team, which raised money for poor and elderly Chinese Americans. She sold insurance old a watch repair business works as professional photographer photographer and refused several marriage proposals because she quote liked her independence. Yeah. She's a badass. She was well known for being fun and enjoying everything life had to give her including once surprise landing her plane and her brother and sister in law's wheatfield just to come by and say hi. She died in 2001 at the age of 94, and her first plane is on display at the Pearson Air Museum. Now I told you to get in some of the statistics when she said I believe that someday there'll be as many women flying as men we suck. I'm aware. As of 2018 according to women in aviation International, only 7.3% of all pilots are women. What a 2019 cnn article furthers that 3% of airline executives are women and only 1% of commercial airline captains are female. It says the article says that a large problem is that the work rules haven't changed in 50 years. Unlike many other industries, there is little room for work life balance. If you've ever known somebody who worked on a plane, you know that they're home one weekend, a month, maybe Yeah, same thing people who work on like trains, but a little bit better for them not much better but a little bit. And it's not something like, you know, if you're a long haul trucker, you can be like, Okay, I'm done with the long haul life I can, I'm gonna start doing ones where it's local, you don't have an option as a pilot. Yeah, and because of the patriarchy, women are still expected to be the ones who stay home with the kids. So most women who become pilots leave the field after fewer than five years. Same with teaching guys, and for similar reasons,
the lack of worth, but work life balance, lack of work life balance, and you don't need to get the perks like you don't get go to fun places you
don't get the pay. Pilots don't tend to get screamed out all the time.
That's true. That's usually the flight attendants that get screamed at
like even in the current nonsense. What's happening with the airline industry is getting another payoff and blah, blah, blah. Nobody's watching those goddamn pilots. Nobody is because oh, no, and for some reason, we can differentiate airline companies from the pilots, but we can't differentiate them. dumbest decisions that are being made for educators and educators. What the DML teachers are the ones going, you know what we want more testing, and longer school days, and let's get rid of those arts. There's not a single teacher. Now that's not true. There's really should be a teacher who is doing that and what and that percentage is like, I say, 2% at most up teachers were like, yeah, testing and fuck the arts.
Not a thing. I definitely had some teachers that were Yeah, more testing and fuck the arts. I had an orchestra thing I had to leave for the day. And it's like, I had to retake a math test. Because like, Hey, I'm gonna be gone for this and as test and he almost would not let me take the test. Because orchestra was not as necessary as math and you really think it's necessary for your education to be in this concert.
I have heard some teachers say shit like that I have and they are the percent of a percent in most cases. Everybody encounters them. They do not represent the whole and people need to stop pretending they do.
My response was you've let people take up take other classes. You let people retake tests for sports stuff. Why is this different? Mm hmm. And it's like, is it?
You know, what's funny is I can honestly say that some of my biggest supporters as a theater teacher, were the PE teachers. Like, throughout my entire career, I never encountered a PE teacher who was like, Fuck the arts always sports, like the stuff they put on TV shows about that. It's in my experience. totally untrue. Are you
saying that Glee isn't an accurate TV show?
That is the least of the problems with?
Okay, another rabbit hole, we could go down for days at a time,
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we should do a podcast where we re watch glee. Don't do that to us.
I don't know if I can take it.
And then we also of course, have the problem where in your third trimester you're not supposed to fly well, female pilots who are able to get pregnant could become pregnant and then poor could not fly for the last three months of their pregnancy. And then for an additional however, long maternity leave.
Yeah, I know. airlines are just so poor. They couldn't possibly eat them. cost of that hopefully never. I mean oh my god trying to get a drink voucher out of them after your your planes been delayed for four hours is hard enough
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it's worth noting that even though most women leave the field in less than five years, the vast majority of them do not become stay at home moms or become housewives, the vast majority continue a job outside the home. So it's not a matter of I don't want to work anymore. I literally can't have my family and have this job. Same reason a lot of teachers leave flight school can also cost as much as $150,000. I read this week that the average four year education is 222,000
Wow. So flight school might be a better option for a lot of people
for a lot of people. Yeah, cuz mean there's not a lot of pilots graduating. So while there are a lot of art history majors, I'm not making fun of art history dudes because that is a hard subject. Yeah, yeah. So people from low income families, which of course disproportional means people of color are less likely to start in the first place, which cause an even large disparity between women of color, and the general population of women. And of course, the general population of pilots. Shannon Morrison of the Ohio State University Center for aviation studies says that there's a disconnect between what airlines say about their inclusion practices and what they actually are celebrating Black History Month, what are the all black crew is not the same as creating a corporate culture that supports diverse talent? If the aviation industry is concerned with the talent shortage, then it should also be concerned with attracting diverse talent by creating a corporate culture that sustains all the individuals who work within it. Yeah, change it. corporate culture seriously. So that is Mary riddle, Leah hang and some of the earliest pioneers and women of color and ideation.
That is awesome. I know a lot of this stuff, and it was really fun to hear it.
Yeah. So you're ready for some questions.
Of course I'm ready for questions. All right,
we'll either Mary hittle or Leah
hang be on a test. No, I feel like it's I think it's gonna get overshadowed by Lindbergh and World War Two.
Yeah. And there's of course the fact that there was already a female Native American pilot and Bessie Coleman, and I don't know like, we don't talk a whole lot about Chinese American history. We talked about railroads a little bit a
but we kind of gloss over how we treated them with that Chinese Exclusion Act. Maybe that's why
Asian Americans Asian history all that gets just glanced
over. It's like Japanese internment camps was a footnote my world war two lessons.
I remember a textbook, the Japanese internment camps. They weren't like well, they were they were a full page insert. And that was it.
Mine was a quarter page insert Wow, Mm hmm. Now let's pretend they are on tests. Well, the fact that both of them experienced with aircrafts probably more than most of their peers were mis trusted in their military work on planes be on the test?
No, because we can never think ill of the troops.
Though these guys weren't the troops. I was clear. These were civilians who worked on planes. We can't feel of men. Okay. Oh, no, I've been looking into buying a big day.
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But what well, but what will the patriarchy
think of undermining the patriarchy one clean ass at a time? No. Will the fact that both of them ended up on airplanes in airplane related leadership positions beyond the test
if they're on the test in the first place?
Yes. And well, the fact that less than 10% of all pilots and less than than 1% of commercial pilots being female be on the test?
No, because that is a shameful shameful fact that will embarrass the male textbook executives.
Yeah. Hey, airline, understood Get your shit together.
You legally have to read refund people their tickets when you cancel a flight legally.
It's like we're giving you like a couple billion dollars in a refund bail. So even a refund. It's a bailout. You're just getting money for nothing, bitches. Maybe you should not be shitty people about it.
Yeah, like awesome. I were looking at taking a trip right before all this went down and I'm really glad we didn't book a flight. Yeah, because
we wouldn't get that back.
Yeah, we were looking at taking the taking it in June. Yeah. But this is why I do road trips. Why I drive everywhere. But I can't drive West. I'm afraid of the mountains. Yep.
Well, you can't drive really far east cuz there's mountains there too. We're just hemmed in and
get around those mountains. If I take any place I've ever actually wanted to go. Remember we drove down the entire east coast. Yep. And we drove there in the first place. I avoided the mountains.
Oh, God. You made me drive through West Virginia. That was so stressful. Yeah. Because of all the bands. Yes. Yes. All the banjos and all the Smoky Mountains. The mountain mamas the whiskey rivers. They were trying to take me home. And I was on vacation
It is beautiful driving through there that is gorgeous. It's what do you have for us today?
So she already kind of talked about this I'm gonna be talking about sharks
and shark. NATO's
no shark. NATO's Damn it. I really I'm actually talking very specifically about shark attacks.
Shark nose are the ultimate shark attack.
They are the shark attack because it's a shark attack on land a shark NATO can be anywhere. And as we learned in Sharknado, three, they can even happen to the White House.
Awesome. I bonded initially over shark
Nate it was it was Christmas. You know the time you traditionally watch shark NATO. Yeah. And she called me and said, Hey, I'm bored. It's Christmas. Want to watch a movie? It's like I checked out Sharknado with the library says cool. Bring tequila, and I did. And that's how our relationship started. Sharknado and tequila best first date.
That wasn't our first date.
No first date was New Year's shortly after that in which we had the most awkward boring date because we've been hanging around for three years. Three days we're out of stuff to talk about.
We've been hanging out for 10 years plus at that time, I don't remember what year this was at that point.
I don't either.
Like I know it was after my divorce. That's what that's what matters.
Yes. I'm not a scrub. I don't want no scrubs. A scrub is a guy that can get no love from Maddie.
True. Yeah, no, we got together and watch shark NATO cuz I was really bored. And then we were like, hey, do you want to try going on a date? Like this is just an actual point of conversation while you're making fun of the movie.
So thank you, Tara Reid. Thank you for everything
for everything. Terry. I actually, I don't know how you came across. I was looking for something unrelated. And I found out like her agents information that you can book Tara Reid for private events.
Oh my god. We have an anniversary that's coming up very soon. We
can't get her for Thursday. But maybe next year for anniversary five. We will do our choreographed dance number to Joe exotic song about Carol Baskin and have Terry Be there
not more importantly, this song we just have Tara Reed be doing a cover of Joe exotic song about Carol tasking as we are dressed like a tiger and Carol Baskin.
We still haven't decided that I forgot to do Halloween costumes. Which one of us is Carol Baskin.
I think neither of us we don't want that evil on ourselves. So sharks, I'm talking about very specific shark attacks that happened in New Jersey in 1916. And how it really changed the way people viewed sharks. Okay. Because, believe it or not, shark attacks have always been a thing. Sharks have been around for 450 million years. Yep. And looks like we have Greek urns from 3000 BCE that show people being attacked by sharks. There's entire Southeast Asian cultures that you that have sharks as important like religious idols and like symbols,
everything that kind of shark that tends to be in these or is it like every,
it's it's probably depends on what sharks in these depictions there probably are. And this is like Pliny the Elder actually describing Pliny the Elder elder describe sharks as creatures that attack pearl hunters. Not entirely wrong, no and even Aztec fishermen, in an attempt to keep sharks away from their boats would tie hot peppers to their holes.
Yeah, so they are susceptible capsaicin.
No, it didn't work. Oh, but they did it anyway.
You know what else it doesn't work on what cats know our cat man. She like loves jalapenos. Oh my god. We had some money to keep them away from her. She somehow finds them.
Yeah, we had some up on the counter some jalapenos, and then like we hear us like crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch over and she's just playing with a jalapeno like it's one of her toys.
I threw it away and put the rest on top of the fridge behind stuff. And then she somehow got hold of one again and I don't know where she got it.
She's She's great. She's a great cat, but He's crazy. For most of history, we've been aware that sharks are dangerous. But we weren't. People in general weren't afraid of sharks, people who spend a lot of time in the water or live by the water or like dependent on the ocean for their livelihood or survival. We're respectful and a little afraid and aware of sharks. Most of the people just knew that sharks existed and like you'd hear stories about like shipwreck sailors being attacked by a shark. That was it. It was not like a front worry for pretty much anybody. But then a series of things happen that kind of changed that A Series of Unfortunate Events a series of unfortunate events happen in America in 1916, along the Jersey Shore when there's a string of shark attacks in one year that killed four people and injured one. So there were some certain some weird circumstances and stuff that led up to this because there were a lot of people in the water that summer for some different reasons. First and foremost, ocean bathing become popular. So it was like a pastime where people would finally go to the beach and go swimming in the ocean and swimming in the ocean was like a passion time instead of just something some people did, it was
amazing bathing costumes that we used to see on Bugs Bunny cartoons. Yeah,
it was just people would go to the beach. It was something they did now. And in 1916. It was a record high here. It's like there are still some temperature records from that year that hadn't been beaten. And in most places, they weren't beaten until, you know, 100 years later, when global climate change started fucking us
all. And have you heard the stories about how like things are visibly getting better even in the short amount of time that people have been on peopling everything. That's crazy. Yeah, it's like, Mother Nature has asked us all to hold her beer.
Yep. Oh, and obviously, there was no air conditioning in 1916.
Yeah, I wouldn't have survived 1916 Yeah, you died. I turned the air conditioning on yesterday
when it was 60 out. And another big factor was that there was a very big polio epidemic in New York City that killed thousands. Oh, it's an epidemic. And a lot of people fled this city just to escape polio and escape the heat. They all went to the beach resorts on the Jersey Shore in New Jersey, there were more people in the water than there had ever been. And some sea captains were reporting off the shore. Lots a large number of large sharks. This was largely ignored because no one was worried about shark attacks. At all. Most people were not concerned. They thought, you know, sharks eat fish, we're not fish. The general assumption was sharks wouldn't prey on people generally. Because they weren't. We weren't their natural prey, we wouldn't need to live in the water sharks wouldn't eat us. We were just kind of visiting.
I mean, there are a lot of things that we eat that aren't really our natural.
The assumptions that were based on this were like, you know, shark attacks were probably only likely when they were scared and caught of nets, because most of the shark injuries were from fishermen or people who worked in the water. And they assumed like these were just, you know, sharks that had been like caught and surprised by people and they bite them. They weren't trying to eat them one scientist. months before this happened. I made the bold claim that he fought even the largest shark didn't have a stronger Bite to a different scientists argued you fucking idiot. their teeth are three inches long and a great white shark can tear a seal and half that will absolutely kill you.
I don't even need to have a strong bite when you have those teeth No.
After this attack the gentleman who made those claims that sharks could kill you admitted that he might have underestimated sharks. Yes, we might have underestimated sharks.
Can I have it on mine? Since you're not letting me be through my actual request too often was that when I die, I be thrown into the ocean to be eaten by sharks. And he said no,
of course I said no. No is the only answer to that. No.
international waters in New Jersey. Everything is legal.
Yes. Oh, I guess I could just do this. Like it's like, oh, no, she got eaten by a shark in New Jersey. It was 100 years ago today actually knows it's too late now.
Are you saying you wish you'd killed me in 2016?
Oh, no. I wish I had died in 2016. Oh man, we all everybody wishes they had died in 2016. The attacks began on July 1 at Beach Haven in New Jersey. There was a man Charles Van Zandt age 23 was going to go out and take a swim before he had dinner with his family and he was playing in the surf with his dog. Oh, no. All right. Lots of dogs are mentioned in this. I'm just gonna say it now. All of the dogs are fine. Okay, okay, no dogs were hurt in this because dogs are smarter than people. Many people died. The dog dogs are fine.
The Sharks are like that's a fucking predator. I'm out here.
Hundreds of sharks for people no dogs. It's cool. Charles Van Zandt bystanders at first thought when he was attacked that he was simply calling to his dog as he was screaming and crying. But eventually a lifeguard another man noticed he was struggling in the surf and swim out to rescue him because he found that he had been bitten on the bitten on the thigh by a shark and it's stripped the flesh from his skin. Oh, he ended up bleeding to death on a hotel day. Waiting for help. Shortly after the attack,
what a horrible way to go.
Yeah. Initially this attack was blamed on sea turtles because settlers were known to snap at people and some of the initial reports didn't want to panic because there were people knew that sharks were out there. But they didn't want people sharks were tricked for dangerous. So they're saying it was sea turtles because sea turtles had been known to snap at people.
So they were cool. He'll being afraid of sea turtles. Yeah.
1916 New Jersey. What else do I need to say? At this point, no resorts and closed then on July 6 45 miles north. There was a second attack on Charles brooder. Here's a Swiss man. He was swimming about 130 yards out from the shore. Wow, that's when a shark bit his abdomen and severed his legs. to women looked out and saw this and they thought that they saw a capsized red canoe because the water around him It turns so read from blood. They went and told the lifeguards who wrote out to rescue him they meatless I was shocked. Got him in the boat and he bled to death before they could reach the shore. Oh yeah. The New York Times reported that women were panic stricken and fainted as his mutilated body was brought ashore,
but I'm sure no men reacted like that. men can't possibly be horrified by these missing abdomen and severed legs of some Oh,
no, that was i mean, i have i've seen similar things. I probably would have thrown up that too.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Austin legitimately had he's not talking about like TV shows. No,
that was it first. Then on July 12. There were some very major attacks. They were at Matawan Creek in New Jersey, which was not a resort town. This is just the place where people lived and a man named Thomas Caudill spotted an eight foot shark in the creek and tried to report people had seen the shark because words of the shark attacks had gotten around at this point. Yeah, the town dismissed him because it was in this creek, around 2pm a group of boys and their dog The dog was fine. Okay. I decided to go swimming. They saw what this shot was an old board or a Log but then they saw the dorsal fin so decided to get out of the water log. Charles Lester still well 11 got pulled underwater Oh, the other boys ran off town to get help and they did came back with several men returned to look for him. Because they were assuming that he was not attacked by a shark but he had a seizure in the water and they were trying to rescue him.
I mean, kids that age they don't want to make that connection with the shark. I mean,
honestly, the boys even said you know, this is a shark but these are adults. It's okay. It's like yeah, it was a shark But okay, your friends underwater? We're gonna go rescue him.
It's like more importantly, people don't believe adults,
your kids adults don't believe children. A man Stanley Fischer found the body. Oh, and he was bringing it back to shore when he was attacked by the shark. Oh, no. And he bled to death from a wound in his thigh and in the hospital about 530 they didn't find Lester stoles body until two days later.
Poor luster important Stanley was that his name? Yep, Stanley. It's like keep was just trying to help and
he was trying to help.
And he got nobody just very few people get eaten by sharks, then
half an hour after these attacks. A half, half an hour later and half a mile upstream, a young boy, Joseph Dunn, age 14, was attacked by the shark, but his brother and a friend managed to wrestle him away from it in what they described as a tug of war with it. Oh, and
now are sharks like crocodiles where you can like punch them, like in the nose?
Yeah, you can.
I mean, I know you can punch anything in the nose. But it's
it's one of those things where there's mixed reports on if it works or not.
But if you're being eaten by a shark, you might as well try
so the consensus I've heard is Yeah, it's like it doesn't affect them because they, like great white sharks hunt by plowing into seals at 30 miles an hour. So you punching them in the nose isn't gonna hurt them. They might just be letting go anyway because they realize you're not the regular prey. And some sharks actually don't like the taste of people because it's reported they spit out the chunks they bite out immediately after What if you go out for the eyes like whenever I watching a TV show where someone has to fight I start yelling go for the eyes. Do you think or maybe Probably not. Because again, they're sharks. They eat scarier things than us. We are the least scary thing out there eyes. Fortunately, Joseph Dunn lived, he survived his injuries and was released from the hospital in September. When was this may? This was in. This was in July. Wow, all 12 days in July, all these shark attacks happened. So obviously there was some Aftermath from this because everybody panicked, every buddy. At first, authorities were reluctant to attribute the attacks to sharks. We talked about this sea turtles earlier. And when finally it was they could not die with sharks anymore after the second attack. They downplayed the threat to humans, because they thought struck the first case the shark was trying to prey on the dogs
because dogs are their natural prey. You know,
dogs are smaller, but people are bigger and
from anybody's ever had a great parodies knows that's true.
After the first two attacks that created a panel to try to calm down the public, they all stress the third attack was incredibly unlikely after the first two attacks, there was one theologist on the panel who recommended that people stay close to the shore, and that they should go swimming in some in net protected beaches. So smart things smart things. It didn't work. People were still panicking. They estimated they lost about $250,000 in tourist revenue
that year in 1916. Money Yeah, that's
9.5 million and today money and sunbathing declined by 75%.
So skin cancer rates went down
skin cancer rates went down, but why would sunbathing go down? You're not in the water sharks aren't going to get you if you're on the land
until they become
shark NATO. But listen, we are still 100 years away from a shark dedo
even happening. Are we though
Actually no, we're like 98 years away from Sharknado even happening
that wasn't set in the future. What was that in the future?
No. Like when When this happened oh, six Okay, okay. They didn't know about shark NATO's back then
I bet the theologist wouldn't have believed in shark NATO's.
Now we know the truth. Armed boat patrols started chasing off sharks and chasing off sharks is in quotes, because they don't actually know if they ever chased off any sharks with these arm boat patrols. One lifeguard thinks that he fought off a 12 foot shark with an or 12 foot shot. That's a big one. It's a real big shark. When they can get that long. They can't get that long. But is aren't they usually like 10? Depends on the species of shark.
Well, yeah, yeah, kind of like saying all whales are blue whale. Yeah, that's not true.
There was an actress Gertrude Hoffman, who was swimming and claims that she was being stalked by the Man Eater shark and when she
was just Harvey Weinstein, yet
young Harvey Weinstein and she remembered reading in the New York Times that she could scare it away by vigorously splashing.
Now, here's a note this will not scare away a shark
Modern ecologist think that sharks like to hunt people because our swimming and splashing sounds like injured fish, and that attracts them. So the splashing didn't help her there probably wasn't a shark. And she later admitted there might not have been a shark. But if it was, it was definitely the manager.
Now isn't it also theorized that the reason a lot of surfers get attacked is because when they're rolling out, they look like seals. Yeah. So don't act like an A piece of prey.
Yeah, I mean, most modern like scientists, like sharks aren't intentionally hunting people, right? We just act and look like prey to them. And so they attack us because they're animals. So they're following their instincts. That's what they do. It's not evil. It's not malicious. They're not like hunting people. They're not like driven by blood lust. They haven't developed a taste for human flesh.
That's not a real thing. Like also like dogs that bite people. They don't have a taste for human flesh. No, unless they are a vicious dog, which does exist just like vicious people exist. Yeah, they are not likely to be a repeat attacker,
the town of Matawan Creek. actually started using dynamite and nets in the creek to try and find the shark. They even offered $100 reward for any shark cut in the creek. That's $20 billion. today. Actually, it's about $5,000. Today, no sharks were caught.
Sharks are smarter than us. I feel like they were coordinating.
Yeah, the New Jersey resorts actually petitioned the federal government for help President Wilson called together and met with his cabinet about what to do about these shark attacks. This was in 1916, also known as when World War One was going on, and they had a full cabinet meeting about shark attacks. They considered using the Coast Guard to defend the beaches from sharks and Congress appropriated $5,000 in aid to New Jersey 200 shark municipalities offered bounties for sharks and hundreds were caught in one of the largest scale animal hunts in history.
Were they catching things that weren't sharks? Like dolphins? Yeah,
they were catching everything. This was indiscriminate slaughter,
like in most sharks of Afghanistan aren't especially dangerous to people. Like they just are, you know, running around doing the shark thing
in small mouths. So are you ready to hear my favorite part of this entire story? Okay, on July 14, a New Yorker Michael Leshner from Harlem, who is a taxidermist and a lion tamer for Barnum and Bailey was fishing and he caught a seven and a half foot great white shark. How he says it nearly sunk his boat but he managed to kill it with a broken or Yeah, he brought it in and when they were examining its when they were examining it, he found a chunk of flesh about half the size of a laundry basket weighing 15 pounds that scientists identified as human remains.
Oh, geez. Now
the taxidermist mounted and displayed this shark in his shop. Oh yeah, it has since been lost, kind of like The Iceman. However, modern scientists are skeptical of the claim that that was human flesh and human remains that we're in the shark
need to call him the Unsolved Mysteries people.
So this there are still theories that about this shark. Here's a side note, I forgot about this. Some people didn't think that these were shark attacks. A lot of people were blaming German u boats. And more importantly, other people were blaming German u boats for bringing killer sharks who were used to eating human flesh from war torn Europe and bringing them to America.
Well, I mean, there's one way to tell that they have frickin laser beams attached to their heads nine.
So yeah, some again, it was World War One, and there was a chance to blame Germans, so they blame the fucking Germans. The large idea that most people leave was these were shark attacks, which they were but there's some debate about if these were, what if this was one shark that all of the attacks if it was several different sharks, and they're just unrelated attacks, or even if it was the same species of shark that all the attacks
I'm telling you the sharks had a Cabinet meeting and decided to go attack?
Yeah, because in 2002 National Geographic publish that it believes that the great white shark was not responsible for the Matawan Creek attacks because They don't think it can survive in the like, you know, saltwater, like the freshwater tidal Creek. Like they think it was a bull shark, which have been known to go upstream like that and are a bit more or a bit more prone to attacking people than great white sharks are that's what they think. Of course the official files still attribute it to be a great white shark and all the attacks a geologist actually claim that we will simply never know but spirited debate will just always happen.
It theologist studied birds I don't know why
ornithologist study bird I know I don't know why. axiology What is because birds are
gonna do theology specifically study like sharks. There's a
theologist study study fish, okay. Yep. So yeah, believe it or not, this event did have some big like pop culture crap happened with it, because Peter benchley wrote a novel jaws based on these shark attacks, and then they turned it into the movie Jaws, which has been one of the biggest contributors to shark hunting and shark fishing and shark deaths. We are just now starting to realize That sharks are not evil, that they are just animals. They're driven by instinct predatory instincts, and they're a necessary and important part of the food chain. And like the food webs and ocean ecology
one I love sharks. I adore them. Like I used to go to the New England Aquarium a lot. And you could watch just stand there and watch these sharks. Secondly, never seen jaws never seen jaws never seen. jaws is
it's a good movie. It's very suspenseful. And the best thing that happened to jaws was they have this big animatronic shark that didn't work. So they never showed the shark until the end.
I've been on the jaws ride at Universal. We actually didn't go on it when we want to know is it still there?
Yeah, I thought maybe I have no idea.
Like we mostly stayed in you know, Harry Potter, but we ventured out briefly. And it wasn't it was like going from a really cool immersive environment to Oh, dear god, I'm at a carnival. Yeah. So. So yeah, that was because we were talking about going back we should talk about finding the jobs right. It's still there. Maybe
So are you ready for some questions? Yeah. Okay, question one. Well, the fact that jaws was based on real events be on the test. Yeah. Well, the fact that only four people died from these shark attacks the other test
Yeah, they kind of have to it's a test about Yes.
Well, the fact that we don't actually know what shark caused these attacks be on the test now and will the fact that a taxidermist who tamed lions caught a man eating shark in Harlem be on the test?
Well, thanks to Joe exotic Absolutely. Oh my god, like, Joe exotics got nothing
on this guy. Uh huh. And plus, No, he didn't do he didn't hire a hitman to kill Carol basket.
Are we sure are we sure this guy is not Joe? exotic Joe exotic and we prove that this guy is not an immortal guy who's in an Oklahoma prison now. Oh my god. Okay, if Joe exotic
is like some like a mortal being who is living through all of history, and that's what
like think about it, though, if you had lived through 1000 years of human history, let's say, and you got to see how terrible people are in general, don't you think you would have ended up a little crazy rather than wise? So you're saying that
Joe exotic is just that what happens naturally, if you're immortal? You hit the point where the only pleasure you get is from being in a polyamorous gay Tiger cult. Yes. Okay, and and shooting music videos. Yeah, amazing, amazing music video.
I'm really mad that they never once mentioned in the doc that that wasn't him singing though, because the group that was doing the music does deserve credit. I don't remember what their name was. I thought once
I feel like they might not want the credit. Maybe well, maybe they do now that it's actually a big thing.
Yeah, cuz like that. We were watching like that. It's not him singing
is there was no way that was him singing he sounds like he swallowed the noisemaker from a whoopee cushion. How could that be him saying Oh, I know.
Okay, so we did mention earlier that we spent some time Sorting people into houses and I promise I bring it back.
Yeah, um, should we get like mentioned some controversial controversial pics? I feel like the office was gonna be the ones that people
just ignore those because they're all flitter ins with the exception of a couple. Yeah although the one controversial one I think is that gem the total fucking slithering
gym is absolutely slithering
like I saw thing on Reddit that hadn't was a Griffin door. I'm like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, a brave person would not have been like, I'm gonna take this job because I'm afraid and not my wife is more afraid of her. Anyway, and then Parks and Rec we decided that Leslie Knope was a Hufflepuff
Yeah, Anna Griffin door. I relate to those lovely nope on a spiritual level and I am a Slytherin. But everything she did everything was because of her friends and her community. That's and she has this nice combination of all the houses which puts her in love. And more importantly, she had like the work ethic she would put in the work she would toil thanklessly like as in city government, because that's what you do when you work in local Gov. As you toil thing
was like we never quite landed on something for Chris Drager, and we want to hear your input. Yeah,
please tell us who what house you think Chris jakers. And
But okay, this was the controversial one that I had is that I think from supernatural Sam and Dean Winchester are both Raven claws. And Austin went with Griffin door. Yeah, of course. See, my argument is that if you have lived through these experiences, you know that these bad things are out there and you're you have the option of trying to run away for your entire life knowing that that won't work, as we've seen from the show, try to go back to a normal life or actively working towards defeating these things. I think it's a Ravenclaw move to go working towards Creek defeating them, because that is the smartest of your three options. You're not going to live your life in total fear. You're you're going to go out and have to find ways to save other people to save yourself to defeat the things that are going after them. And you do it entirely through cleverness.
See, I do them kind of more like Hermione or nevel Sal Griffin doors not Ron and Harry who just like, blindly stumbled into things. They're like, Oh, there's this thing happening. I bet we can learn about it so we can defeat it or figure out what's going on
means I can I can. I can put Dean into Gryffindor if I need to. Sam is definitely a rebel
call Sam. Sam is definitely a Ravenclaw.
But he Okay, I know Dean, it comes across as the dopey one who doesn't want to do the research and blah blah, blah. But Ravenclaw does not necessarily mean studious. Ravenclaw just means that you know how to do something and he knows how to do things. Yeah, also why I think that penny from Big Bang Theory is the only definite Ravenclaw on the show.
At first when I first heard that I thought no, that's stupid that I thought for a moment and yes,
like if there's the episode where they're putting in her TV or building something for I think it was a TV and they were like talking about putting in like these extra electronics and a heat sink and all this and she's like, Guys, I have the instructions. We're working on it. She has all you have to do is like Plugging in and press these couple of buttons and set up, she actually like finds the solution to the problems where they make bigger problems. She fixes so many other issues for them just by being quick on her feet and clever and they are like she knows what she knows. She also knows that she's not the most educated but she works to become more educated and they don't
know if anything they they work to not learn anything,
because it proved to them that they don't know stuff shell Yeah, I love Sheldon. I cannot stand Sheldon.
You're married to Sheldon I am married to Amy fucking Santiago and you know.
Oh, man. So what have you learn today?
I've learned that there were two badass women, pilots of color who just competently went about doing their jobs this and were just great at it. Even though no one thought that they we should be able to do it.
to people that will never be mentioned in school. No, I learned that jaws is based on a true story.
Unknown Speaker 1:07:58
Yeah. I love that. That's so cool.
Well, I hope you all are continuing to social distance and wash your hands and making and wearing super cool masks. We ordered a couple from Etsy that have Harry Potter print on them so we're excited to get those. In the meantime, I don't go out my immune system has some issues. So Austin is going to be going out wearing a red bandana like an old fashioned bandit. I need to find a cowboy hat
and some chaps
you're not wearing. I am wearing nothing but chat. I will give you I will get you a leather vest.
Okay, so I can be like, Oh man, I just got dressed like Woody from Toy Story you should.
You should just tell people to reach for the sky.
Unknown Speaker 1:08:41
Or this guy.
Or if somebody gets too close to you just yell there's a snake in my boots that will get freaked out and leave.
Oh, so on that note, where can they find this on social media?
Wait, wait, wait, did you get Did you see the mask that has nothing but tiny penises on it?
Yes, the one where if they're close enough and see that they're tiny penises? They're too close. Do they back off?
Yeah, so they say D it's like you know their penises on your mask. You're too close if you can see those? Yeah, I love it. I love it. But anyway, people can find us on Twitter at on the test pod on Instagram at on the test pod on Facebook. We are Will This Be On the Test with the question mark or Facebook comm slash on the test pod.
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and yes So stay safe stay healthy stay active. We're actually recording this on Easter so I hope you guys made good choices have your if you if you celebrate Easter or if you celebrated Passover this week had everything you know via zoom meeting with your families and didn't look anybody's eyeballs, the churches around us even when Kansas was trying to reopen the churches opted to stay close
they they put out a very specific method messages saying we will not be opening continue to maintain social distancing. Don't listen to those idiots who say we can meet.
And the idiots who say we can meet last anyway, because religion was never being targeted, yet was any gathering of more than anywhere like, well, people are gathering at Walmart and like, No, they're not they're existing in Walmart simultaneously. Gathering is an intentional grouping of people. And there are stores that are also now saying, you know, they're actually somebody at the door, almost like at a club saying, Hey, stop, and then people come out. They let the next person and people come out to it. And that's the way it should be. Although I thought horrible thing on social media where a guy had that job. somebody tried to cut the line. He was like you to go back to doing this this way. And the dude fucking choked him. Wow, yeah, manager got over it. Got the guy off of them. But yeah, I know things are hard. Don't suck as a person. Please don't. It's like is that how your mother raised you?
It might be. I seem like a shitty person.
Yeah. Do you want people to think your mother was a shitty person? You might?
Unknown Speaker 1:11:28
Well I guess on that bummer.
Stay safe, stay healthy and Class dismissed.
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