Will This Be on the Test? Transcripts
Hi everybody and welcome to Will This Be On The Test I'm Maddie. I'm Austin and we are here today to talk to you about some stuff that you should have learned in school but they screwed up in some way and
either they just didn't teach it to you to wrong or taught you only parts of it and left the best parts out
this week. We are talking about things I was gonna actually say that what when we went to see this week but I think I'll save that for the end of our beginning of show banter because I think it leads into what you do
absolutely leads into what I'm doing.
So I'm instead going to talk about the person in our wall.
We don't have a person in our wall we absolutely insane. I think at best we have a ghost.
Oh goodness, hi Draco.
Or we have four cats who like to make noises and move shit around.
So a couple weeks ago, I was sitting downstairs and I was like hey Austin, map up our upstairs so he doesn't like now match it up with the Downstairs that we're currently sitting in, and he realized, like I did that they don't match.
Yeah, there's like a not a big spot, but like probably like maybe 20 square feet of space that there's nothing there but there should be something there.
So I'm thinking we've got some kind of hidden room. And we opened up the wall in the two places where it was easiest to do so but wasn't quite directly to it, that we found insulation. So now we have to actually go to the point we have to break into a wall wall. But luckily, Austin doesn't think I'm crazy in this way.
I do think she's crazy. But I can work with us.
So we are going to see what's going on inside that wall. And this is the spot that's eventually going to be our podcast cave. It's a really like it's the only walk in closet in the house.
It's a weird walking closet. It's like a walk in closet for hobbits.
Yeah, it's really short and really long. Has this part of the wall that sticks out in a way no wall should so we think that there's something that's open back there but I'm going to hidden room. And I think we live in a murder house. Because downstairs one of the bedrooms has the impression of either a slide lock or a chain lock on the out side. So though this was not like a sibling keeping their sibling out of their room, it was someone keeping a person inside
that's where like the screw holes and stuff for when someone set like a latch on the out on a door to keep someone locked inside of a bedroom.
Yeah, so there's something super weird about this house. And we've had stuff like going missing lately and then showing back up and really obvious places that we had checked.
We had the I saw a ghost version of you like walk across from the bathroom.
I saw so you know how ceiling fans have those chains that hang down. Saw ours flip itself upward towards the ceiling and then loop itself around itself to the point where I had to get up and untangle it. And you know, when a fan moves, it moves the chain a little bit back and forth or a little bit in a circle, nothing around like this, it would have been it would have hit the fan itself. So we live in a murder house, and the person who built our upper floor was supposedly an electrician.
There is no way whoever built this was an electrician,
we've gone through and fix so many of the electrical guys if you haven't enrolled your children theater, it's a great way for them to learn the hard skills like like construction and electrical work. It's the only place the only thing you won't learn is plumbing and there's really not a place to learn plumbing and typical K through 12 School
know unless you go to a really weird school,
or some old school does a really good trade program. Yeah,
our walls are actually full of money, drugs and guns.
You know, money, drugs and guns I can handle. I'm just really hoping we don't find a day. Body although that would explain the smell we have sometimes.
Yeah. Whoo. So here's a question if we open the wall, and we find the lots of money and a dead body, we are 100% taking the money then saying we found a body in only a body.
Actually, I think there is some kind of legal claim we would have the money unless they're able to tie the money to the murder
podcast listeners. You're in on this with us now. We'll give you a cut. You never heard us talk about this. This is our secret
better any podcast listener who actually knows the legality of this money that we are definitely going to find alongside dead body do we get to keep
Unknown Speaker 4:37
the money? I think at best
we're going to find like a raccoon skeleton. That is I
think there's a very real chance that we'll find the body of some dead creature up there.
Unknown Speaker 4:46
Yeah. And hopefully it'll be yourself.
No, we'll find creature but that'd be really sad if we found his body. What was he doing here? He's from England. Do you think American wizards have households
it'd be really fucked up. If we do.
Yeah, but we aren't good at not being fucked up. As you know, we'll talk about in my story today.
Oh, so this week we also saw the movie parasite
we did and there's nothing we could say about it. That wouldn't be a spoiler because anything we would want to talk about would be a spoiler. We can't even tell you like, the basics of the plot.
I feel like if you tried to explain this movie for us to explain this movie, well, you'd actually take longer than watching this movie.
It'd be like listening to your four year old talk about patrol or anything on YouTube. How anything that needs to like what you see on YouTube old explaining to
hearing a four year old explaining YouTube
I don't know if you've ever watched half of YouTube it's just people talking for a long time about nothing we would know nothing about that. So
basically like YouTube is like a podcast but with pretty people who want to be on video
pretty people, all of them.
Okay, people who are okay with being on video. parasite actually hadn't leads in the mind. Okay reasons, because this isn't a spoiler but I feel like it's an action Talk about during it a character mentions someone called Admiral ye. And like we're gonna set it up like it's crane formation, and I had no idea what they were talking about.
Oh yeah, this isn't a spoiler.
Yeah, not a spoiler. I told you this was a spoiler. I know it's spoilers do i know
i'm just reiterating for our 10,000 billion listeners that this is not a spoiler, therefore, you don't need to worry.
That's true. So knowing that
a historical figure is mentioned is not a spoiler.
I know it was. And then I was kind of halfway thinking about that. Then our President shitstain started bad mouthing that the movie parasite and it's like, oh, it's Korea. Why did it win? And I thought, fuck you. I'm researching Korea now. So that's what I did. And I went into and looked up stuff about Admiral
remember he only had problems with South Korea. Oh,
yeah. Certainly has problems with South Korea. He's totally BFFs with North Korea, and they're terrifying human rights abusing dictatorship.
Wonder what it's like wonder what it's like wonder what it's like to have a lot of human rights is happening right in your own country.
Oh man. Well, I don't know maybe we'll find out it sounds like we're leading into multiple things leading
we have multiple multiple things. Yeah. So I'm going to talk about Admiral he okay he soon sin or if your Encyclopedia Britannica II soon Shin so I'm not entirely sure which one is right
remember that episode that we did where Encyclopedia Britannica was extremely judgmental yeah the rest of my sources had been unbiased. Well exactly pity Britannica was telling people who believed in Oh gosh, what was it? left brain right brain were absolute idiots who deserve to like be locked out of my Britannica. Whoa.
He is one of Korea's greatest heroes and is just a national hero and a brilliant naval tactician who saved Korea. So let's go ahead and talk about him. He was born On April 28 1545, it seemed like kind of well known family. He passed the military exam in 1576 and became one of the oldest junior officers at the age of 32. Because he was kind of old, he got posted to a northern frontier army and actually became a pretty successful leader in defeat in defending a bunch of border settlements and fighting off like just, you know, Raiders from the north. So he's pretty successful, but his successes made his superiors very jealous, and in something that was actually fairly common in this age of Korea. They accused him of desertion, and just basically all of these crimes and a bunch of them agreed to it. So he got stripped of his rank imprisoned and tortured, because they were jealous of his successes, and they didn't want to have a powerful rival.
Like how Drake has been treating fezzik lately.
Yes, exactly. This is very similar to what our cats do.
And also look what happened. At the beginning. Draco jumped up and now feza jumped up.
He is a very happy boy. He was eventually released from prison and he re enlisted just as like an enlisted man and again rose through the ranks. He was became as appointed the commander of a training school in seal and he was then transferred to a small country military magistrate position. Then he continued to rise in the ranks after that and just kept being awesome at his job and being rewarded for it. Until in 1591, he was made the commander of the West Yola naval district which was pretty good for them because in 1592, Japan invaded Korea. Now I'm going to go there a quick note about what was going on in Japan at this time. Japan was near the end of 150 year long internal conflict, the second Goku July, which was basically a period of warring states with lots of political intrigue and almost constant warfare. So this force led boy led by Pluto, my hitter Yoshi he had briefly unified Japan and use this as an opportunity to fulfil his old masters goal of invading China and Korea. And also as kind of a way to keep all of these you know, well trained soldiers from revolting and causing trouble in Japan.
revolting, causing trouble the boys are fighting back. Are you
making like the cats reenact this as I go through my story, boy, when we get to the naval battles, I have no idea what you can do with these cats. When you when you own cats, they are troubles. All of them are troubles.
I don't know. It's been no trouble lately.
I feel like she's the secret instigator.
She's nowhere near this.
Yeah, then Japan invaded Korea with an army of 158,000 troops and about 17,000 ships. Sorry 1700 ships. This is bad news for Korea. Fortunately, Admiral he had only been in command for a year and I will note had zero Naval Training or naval experience before this instituted several reforms ski designed and had commissioned a bunch of heavy cannons for their ships, which was a fairly new thing in this for naval warfare in this area. I mean, European ships have been using cannons for a while. But this was we're going to put lots of cannons on big ships and see how that works out for us and pretty well is the answer. He also built the turtle ships,
Mitch McConnell and ship form.
These are so much better than Mitch McConnell and chip form. These were the first record. They had been like kind of something they've been talked about in Korean history for a while, but he actually built them. These were like armored ships, they had sales, they had rowers, but they were covered in spiked iron plates and kind of looked like a big turtle shell. They also had dragon heads on the front somewhere cannons and some also would spew out smoke.
I feel like this is what I would associate with Viking ships more.
Oh, yeah. And they were they were road so they were deceptively fast even though they were they were road they were road. Oh road, okay. People would use or
or o w EDROD.
Yes, they would Today, they were road they, they had to, they had to hire a bunch of cowboys to come out and break these ships then they'd like, you know, ride him into battle going he hotshoe their six guns.
It would have been written even then though
yet they wrote them. Also another stroke of luck. The cannons were completed a couple of weeks before this and the first Turtle Ship was tested the day before Japan invaded in a year. He insisted these reforms again, zero naval experience. And throughout this entire war, he was always outnumbered, always poorly supplied, and basically fighting a losing battle. And especially like on land, things were going really poorly like cities would fall almost instantly they were outnumbered. The Japanese troops were very experienced veterans with good commanders and just they were good at war because they've been doing it for 150 years and they even pushed as far north and took Pyongyang which is the current North Korean capital, but they went That far north and before they even got slowed down.
Yeah, it's important. Remember this point the Korea's were Korea,
like yeah, they've been separate Korea's for a very short time. How long has there been North Korea and South Korea? I think it's less than 100 years. So I think 1955 we never learned about that in school at all.
We also never really learned about the Korean War.
Unknown Speaker 13:20
Yeah. Now, not one mention of even though I
think both of our grandparents were in it. We both had grandparents who were in the Korean War.
Yes. So yeah, I don't think either of them just like to talk about it.
No more bad news for Admiral E. Two other fleets were destroyed basically because they were caught in port. So the naval commanders just destroyed their ships to prevent them from being captured and just kind of flood inland. He was one of the few naval commanders left in Korea, when all this is going down. Which I feel like I should just point this out. For people who don't know geography. Japan is an island.
Unknown Speaker 13:52
Shut up. Yeah, I see the look you're giving me. I know Japan
is an island, Korea and Korea. I know it's right off. coast of England.
Japan is an island. So for them to get troops or supplies or anything from Japan to Korea, they got to take a boat at this point because they don't have airplanes yet, or it gets really really big cannons to shoot supplies over.
Funny. That's not funny, I'm getting really, really, like lost in the word canon earlier this week.
So he was the only large naval force left he had 24 large ships, 15 smaller ones and 46 boats, which are basically just like fishing boats that were mostly good for just scouting boats boat and moving stuff around. So that was his entire force against these 1700 Japanese ships that were bearing down on his country. He had some advantages though. Like for example, he had heavy cannons in his ships that could easily destroy the Japanese ships that ranged the Japanese ships mostly used fire arrows, small arms fire, they had Aqua buses, which were basically muskets and and yet not a lot of heavy cans on their ships they did maybe have one or two on a ship, the Korean ships had between 20 and 30. So bunch more heavily armed ships. And they also have the turtle ships, which were hard to board because they had iron spikes on them. They would just fire would like, you know, Fire Arrows wouldn't catch on the iron plates, bullets would just bounce off of them. And they also had 36 cannons, and were fast enough and strong enough that they could just ram into ships and just start firing in the middle of the Japanese ships. So they were pretty effective. And of course, he was an amazing naval tactician, he would frequently use faints, he'd set up traps, he'd send in some ships to retreat that would cause the Japanese ships to try and follow them and he lure them into traps, which was one of his famous one was the crane, the lens of the crane, which is what they talked about in parasite in which they would lead them into a spot and there'd be a special My circle of Korean boats with cannons that would just fire on the Japanese ships once they within range, again and all the strategies depended on them staying out of range of the Japanese guns and being too far away for them to be easily boarded. That was his strategy. And it worked incredibly well.
What was the strategy before be close enough to get border boarded and shot up?
Yeah, that was the naval warfare at the time was a lot of Okay, we are going to have big boats, lots of people on them. And then we're going to jump onto their boat and fight their people with our, with our people and like shoot arrows at them. That's dumb. That was naval warfare. For most of history, naval
warfare was just ground warfare on the water.
Yes, that's dumb. Yeah, so there was one, the Battle of honson Island, which was one of his bigger victories. He he had three turtle ships at this time and so just the one so they've been building more in this battle. He lowered the Japanese out into a trap. It was the crane wings he sunk 47 ships and captured 12 after This the Japanese ended all neighbor naval operations. Now at this point, I'm going to point this out because this is amazing. Admiral yay has not lost a single ship in combat. Whoa. Yeah. So he has a perfect record at this point. Yeah. In 1592. He captured or sunk hundreds of Japanese ships without losing a single of his own. In 1593. He was promoted to be the commander of all the Navy's he continue to attack the Japanese supply lines and it slowed down the Japanese advances, combined with the guerrilla fighters, England not not like guerrilla fighters. They didn't have trained gorillas fighting. I'm always disappointed when I hear about guerrilla fighters, even though I know that they aren't actual fighters. I always kind of hope that someday we'll have trained gorillas fighting in wars,
leave the gorillas out of this. They've had a hard enough existence as it is
those gentle forest apes.
Yeah. And then we like let our kids go into their enclosures and have to shoot them. It's been like, it's not
the kids if we should have just shot the kid who Ron Bay is a gentle giant,
the whole her Oh, I understand why they had to shoot around Bay. I actually do but I'm like this is why kids leeches are a good idea. Also, why was there a gap big enough for a kid to get through but kid leashes? Kid leashes? Kid leashes want to sponsor us? I'm on board.
Okay, I feel like there's some sponsors we don't want and like kids leashes is one of them. I was Alicia. I was also released kid and this is how we turned out do you really want this for your children?
Hey, I was over a 4.0 students and I have a master's degree. And I haven't gotten a single driving ticket in over 11 years now. I'm exactly what you want your kid to be. Austin has a beard.
I do have a beard. Okay, so pretty perfect kid Leisha sponsor us. So he continued to attack their supply lines, he helped slow down their advance. And with the help of some Chinese troops from the Ming Dynasty, which I guess was the current time, Chinese troops showing up to help
so from the dynasty That was currently in power mean dynasty, as we call things like we don't tend to call things by, we don't tend to give things a title until they're past some truth unless they're a regime then sometimes we do.
So they with the help of subjects from them, they brought things to a stalemate, and like stopped them at the very far north of Korea. But the Japanese realized that they had to win this war, they had to stop Admiral Yi. And they use the double agent and some spies to kind of set things up. They knew that there was some like, you know, there was still the court stuff was happening and he had some enemies because, again, he was very successful. So there were some people who just wanted out of the way so they could be the big heroes. He was they decided to lure him into a trap. What if his superiors ordered him to basically sail his ships into a rocky area where they would all sink and he declined these orders and as a result, was stripped of his rank again, imprisoned again, and tortured again and actually tortured near to death. The King actually wanted him killed. But there were still enough people in the sport who saw the court who supported him that they convinced them to spare generally, which was great, because the new commander, one gun, fucked up royal, the Japanese were able to land 140,000 fresh troops completely unopposed. And he sailed the Korean Navy, which was about 150 ships at that time, he sailed into 500 to 1000 ships at close range and they were boarded and all the Korean sailors were massacred.
So you're saying that getting rid of Admiral he was a bad idea?
It was a very bad idea.
He was commander Yeah, at this point. He
was it Admiral Yeah, okay. Yeah, cuz that's like there's a lot of long Korean words that I would just massacre.
That's probably not a good choice of word right here. Yeah.
A lot of long Korean words that I would just mispronounced since the point of shame. So I decided I'm just gonna call them Admiral E. Okay. of the hundred and 50 ships and the assembled at only 13 escaped Jesus after this disaster. He was pardoned and put back in charge of the Navy, of course. So this brings us to the Battle of me young and Yang.
You know what it says a lot about him that they can still trust him to be in charge of this afterwards.
At one point he received near the end of this he received an order from one of his superiors to just destroy the ships and bring the crew inland. The fight with the ground forces, he responded with your servant death have 12 warships under his command, which again, third, everything else I've seen was 13. But I guess at this point, there were 12. So maybe he picked up another one under his command, and he is still alive the enemies, the enemy will shall never be safe in the western see, so basically, screw you, I do what I want. And so he set up a trap and an arrow straight and he lowered 333 Japanese ships into this trap. His long reign guns in the narrow strait combined with the tides and just the fact that it was a narrow area for all of these ships just wreak havoc with Japanese. About 31 of their ships were sunk and the Japanese Admiral was killed, and they managed to capture his body and they were displaying his head to moralize the Japanese further. Well, yeah, there were less than 10 Korean casualties. Zero ships were lost.
You don't have a whole lot of heads on pikes these days.
No. And we're worse off for it. Well, actually no with the some current things. I'm glad we don't have heads on pikes. Yeah, heads on pikes would be would go very badly these days. And because of his naval victory, and the Japanese not be able to really advance past him. The Japanese ground forces that just been landed were cut off from their supply lines, and they had to retreat. This was he his greatest victory, and his one of the most lopsided victories in history. 13 ships against that number should not have won and it has never happened again, or this was remarkable. This is amazing. You look at what are you staring at?
No, I was just thinking Admiral, he became Aria and Game of Thrones kind of Yeah, what do we say to the guy Death, not today. I'm sad that
you mentioned that because in a different naval engagement on December 15 1598, Admiral he died.
Damn it. And while he had to die and he can become Aria,
yeah, a stray bullet caught him through the armpit of his armor and into his chest.
Bad luck, basically. And
as he was dying, he said to his nephew that was with him. This war is at its height, where my armor and beat my wardrobes do not announce my death, they managed to rush his body into his quarters, and his nephew put on his armor and continue to beat his war drums until they had won that battle, which again, they won because they followed Admiral use plans, and it worked out. And this was near the end of that war. And it was a big tragedy. Apparently, the entire Navy cried, including the the Chinese navy that had come to join them at this point in their fight with Japan, because, again, Japan, they're going to invade Korea as a staging ground. For third nation of China,
it's amazing some of the last words that people have some people just have like this moment of lucidity right at the end and clearly he's one of them where it's this is what has to happen. I mean,
he is really regarded as just a genius. Like a gentleman someone who is absolutely selfless who puts you know his duty above everything else and just and just kind of like almost like a almost a martyr at points. And again, these are his words of like, his his last words are famous in Korea. Yeah, I wish I could speak Korean because it's like,
I bet it sounds cooler and Korean as we learned from Paris, like on
everything sounds cooler in Korean,
especially watching them like, put subtitles down for things that were not words. Really it was more like sound effects. Uh huh. Like, well, but we do sound effects like and then they're like, Kapow, you know, this was more of like a way of speaking that will sound more like a sound effect. It was very cool.
Yeah, yeah. So he's still regarded as a hero of Korea. Even the English historians admit that he was at least an equal to Lord Nelson. This is the English so yeah, he there are quite a few honors to, to add really. South Korea named their longest Brit suspension bridge after him. There's a street named after him in Seoul and he's also on the hundred one coin. Okay. The Turtle Ship by the way is on the five one coin, which actually there is some discussion about whether the Turtle Ship was as great as they said it was because none of them survived. And all of his big like nail reforms kind of went away after his death. So they kept they stopped the turtle ships. We're not entirely sure how they were built. We just have his journal entries and descriptions of them
but some people have built like replica replica of the turtle ships and then go online and look at them because they're really cool looking and Of course, the king of Korea at the time, still hated him and reportedly had a completely neutral reaction to his death and so any awards or recognition to Admiral he were given after that King had died. Yeah, sure, like that still happens today. This guy was cool. I wish we had learned about him and or really learned any Asian history.
Yeah, I didn't learn anything other than a couple of broad strokes until I took a myths and legends of Eastern Asia class in college.
I think like in school, the stuff we learned was really just like tangentially about Asia. It's like Marco Polo went there, then nothing happens until like Admiral Perry from the United States showed up there and opened up Japan, and then World War Two, and that's all of the Asian history we get. And that's just as it relates to European and American history.
My Asian history was based in world religion classes. Wow. I know that the Buddha that we imagine is not actually what Buddha looked like. It's actually based on Someone called I think Buddha, who was a completely different person. And it was just he was just known as like a jolly dude. And so like, but Buddha was Indian and quite felt that and that's most of my memory from that until I taught world religions later on, believe it or not, lots of cool ship
happened outside of Europe and America, and I really wish we got a chance to learn about it.
We learn about the Great Wall of China, because it's big, and
we learned that it existed we don't learn anything else. Yeah, and like a baby, like, look at these terracotta warriors from this tomb and nothing about like, you know, the Chen Emperor, or the Qin Dynasty. Yeah.
And I feel like the closest we got to learning about Asia was learning about the Middle East, which I know is not Asia.
I mean, it's on the Asian continent, but it's it's not
it's not Eastern Asia, which is Yeah, you know, not why don't we learn about Eastern Asia, they're important to allies and enemies, coming on the time of history. More importantly, like we don't
we have this weird image of everyone that wasn't Europe was like, completely backwards. But they were so much more advanced. They were very advanced. And even at this time, they had like copper. They had comparable technology methods. Everything that
gunpowder invented in China. Yeah.
Because I mean, this is at this time, they were using cannons on ships. They were painted as backwards, but they were anything but
yeah, and it doesn't it doesn't make any sense. Like I remember hearing like the occasional anecdote that was basically they were far more advanced than anybody else. And then we took their stuff. Oh, wait, still growed was the thing? Yeah. The Silk Road did learn about that.
Yeah. Which was basically how stuff from China got
to Europe, because that's the only reason it mattered.
So yeah, which we learned this stuff. Yeah. So you ready for some questions? Yeah. Okay. Well, the fact that Admiral he never lost a ship beyond the test, yes. Well, the fact that you can succeed beyond the wildest expectations of your bosses and still get fired for bullshit reasons beyond the test.
are we calling life a test? Yes, it must test that is real life.
Yes that will eventually show up will the fact that the American ironclads from the Civil War we're not actually the world's first ironclads they've been around for a couple hundred years be on the test the the monitor in the Merrimack we always learned they were the first
sorry I've never seen a snake yawn before. What? She gets out? Yeah, she just yawn and she opened her mouth like so that her bottom jaw was hitting her throat. I was actually worried for a second. No snakes did yawn. I but no, the thing about I am back. I am glad ironclads will not be on the test. Here.
How about the fact that job experience is not always necessary for success beyond the test? Because Admiral he had zero naval experience when he took over the Navy.
I think at this point, we're going to have a hard time forcing that to be on the tests because Betsy the boss
that's okay. Yeah. Oh, Betsy, the boss. g zero job experience, but she's fucking up royal. So yeah. She is the Uh oh crap. What was his name? The new the new naval commander, one gun who, like completely destroyed Korea's Navy.
I remember watching her initial like, I guess they would call I guess the best word for me interview for the job. I don't think I had ever gotten that drunk without a party being involved. I sat there and just drank the entire time because I was watching my career be turned into an absolute farce. Like, by that point, you know, I been working in my field in various ways for decades, and I had all these degrees and all this experience and then this woman talks about bears and got to be the biggest version of my boss. Come on. Yeah. Okay.
Well, the fact that the only reason I even looked this up was because the President was an asshole about South Koreans and the movie. The other
test. Are you writing the test? Yes, then yes.
Okay. Yeah I was having trouble thinking of questions for mine
Unknown Speaker 31:02
but yeah Admiral he was really cool and really was really cool
and also the admiral he reference and parasite makes a lot of sense to me now but I'll talk about it off air like you're making you were talking about the crane formation thing Yeah. Did you see me kind of like stare off into space for a second during that yes that's what I figured out why they made the reference in the movie and I will talk to you about it off air. Why does have to be off air? Because it's a spoiler. Oh, it's a spoiler. Okay. If the movie had been out years ago, I would have no problem with spoilers but it is still in theaters guys go see it in theaters. In
Paris. It was amazing. Just like even if you can't see in theaters just
it is on video now or get DVD. Yeah, check it out at
your local library or buy it because
your local library will have a very long waiting list for it. Go see it but I recommend theaters just because you won't have the outside distractions then since it is a movie you need to read. That helps me as someone with ADHD to not have the other distractions. Although I am really excited about that French horror series melian
it's basically about like your childhood nightmares.
childhood I still have those nightmares. Oh, yeah, that's right. Um, the idea of the show is that she has this thing that's followed her in her nightmares her whole life and so have I,
you have followed her up.
And I've mentioned this to people before everybody's like, that's not a thing that happens. So some French TV show went into my brain and pulled things out of my nightmares except mine's male versus female and made it into a TV show that I have to read because it's in the French and I'm like God damn it I can't see this in the movie via you know, I'll TV
well maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's dubbed.
I don't like dubbed Okay, no matter how good the dubbed voice actor is. It just never looks right. It's like It's like going into the uncanny valley with live action. Gotcha. Well, now for something completely different. I'm turning the mic. Back on our very first episode. We obviously talked about Pliny the Elder And we've had a lot of questions for plenty over the time so I feel like our other person got kind of pushed to the side. I talked about Clara Luper Claire looper, an amazing, amazing historical figure. Please go listen to our first episode. Even if you hate us go listen to our first episode, because you need to learn about both plenty and Clara Luper for very different reasons. Claire looper was this amazing figure one of the mothers of the Civil Rights Movement who worked out of Oklahoma where I went to school for four solid years this week, Oklahoma announced that they are going to start requiring teaching of the Tulsa race massacre in 2021. And I did not go to school there in 2021. But I did take a whole year of Oklahoma history and guess what was never once mentioned.
I'm going to say this Tulsa race massacre was never once mentioned Not
once. And I also want to add to this, I lived in a town called Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. When someone from outside of Oklahoma asks, Where are you from and you live in Oklahoma, or you live in Broken Arrow you say Tulsa just like we would say Kansas City because no one will know where exact town is. The city of Broken Arrow is closer to the center of Tulsa than we are to the center of Kansas City. Therefore there is no excuse for us not teaching this major part of Tolson history at all. Before I get much more into it my sources, Mr. I don't cite sources.
Citing sources is for squares,
citing sources we really don't want to get sued.
Oh, yeah, like Admiral ye is gonna come back from the grave and sue me.
not worried. But ultimately, my services were history. com New York Magazine, Tulsa, history.org, national criminal justice service Wikipedia, but actually not about this topic and NBC News. I actually didn't use it Wikipedia at all for this exact topic. Oh, man, look
at someone flexing on me.
I used it just to look up one fact that was tangentially related. And it didn't even help. So the Tulsa race massacre was in 1921. It is one of the largest individual incidents of racially motivated violence in US history, but one of the least top ones anywhere in the country. So even if I had lived here at that time, I probably wouldn't have been taught it. Were you taught it know, in 2012, the State Senate tried to pass a bill requiring that it be taught, but it was shot down because they're already teaching it. So why should we make a lot of tell them to teach it except they weren't teaching it? It been required by the Department of Education since 2000, in Oklahoma history classes and since 2004, and US history classes, but it wasn't in the history books until 2009. So they were basically saying, Yeah, teach it, but we're not going to put it in your history book. And your curriculum is actually based on your history book. So don't actually teach it. It's embarrassing. So when they tried to put it forth in 2012, they were opponents to having this be taught now, and to 2021 it's finally actually going to be required. It took them literally a century, the massacre was in 1921. Wow. And they have not been required to teach it until next year, most if not all of the people who were there are dead now. And even if they were alive, they would not be old enough to remember a damn thing about it. Like, you know, maybe they're 101 years old or something. I guess there are people in this world are 110 who could maybe maybe remember it, but I think we would know that. I think that would have been one of the articles that I would, but I found Yeah, so just to get out of the way. I'm talking about the G word that comes up in most of our episodes. genocide. Oh, goody. Now, this is not national level genocide. This is not we're going to kill off an entire population across this entire continent, but it's basically genocide. And 1921 Tulsa was a prosperous over oil town with over a hundred thousand people it actually has about 400,000 now the city had about 10,000 black residents most of whom lived in a neighborhood called Greenwood which had its own successful business district called Black Wall Street. Greenwood was actually really successful and Tulsa people consider themselves vigilantes a lot though. Oh that good old so there's mobs and lynchings pretty often with little done to prevent them and it wasn't just white on black. Anytime white people wanted to Lynch somebody didn't matter what race they are, they just lynched them.
God tells us an awful place sucks.
Yeah, why would anybody want to move to Oklahoma? It's like, it's the worst. Like there's even a story about them like dragging a teenager out of a jail cell white teenager and lynching him because he was suspected of murdering a cab driver. Right. And it's actually it is important to note that there are people of all races have been lynched throughout history, although it was white people who typically did the lynchings but that's only because I want to cover a different one like that later, probably in the near future. So basically, folks really enjoy just dragging other humans beat them hanging them and while an audience stood and cheered them on, and the cops didn't stop them, because lynchings are fun vigilantes are a good thing. Just watch Batman clips. He doesn't look people, he's just a vigilante. So this story starts very similarly to Emmett Till. On May 30 1921, a black teenager named dick Rowland entered an office building on South Main Street called the Drexel building. There he got onto an elevator with a white female operator named Sarah page. She ended up screaming and he ran, police were called and he was arrested the next day. The next day part is important, because none of this started until he was arrested on May 31. And it ended on June 1. It's important to note that this entire thing took place him may 31 and June 1, the Tulsa Tribune ran a front page story that he had sexually assaulted Sarah page one of those accusations that makes no actual sense if you think about it, because an elevator is a small space, not easy to get out of and you're going to get caught. It's like The time that I was working at Starbucks and this guy came through the drive thru and didn't get off his phone so he drove off those credit card and then a few hours later he comes in in a storm. That girl working drives them stole my credit card. Yes perfect crime I'll never get caught doing this at my own place of work just like you'll never get caught sexually assaulting someone on an elevator and then trying to run away because elevators back then were not like they are now which is like these steel boxes. beaver seen an elevator that was the kind that was run by people like this. Yes, Sarah, like basically glass. You're going to get caught anyway. That night the night that he was arrested a white mob showed up outside the courthouse trying to get the sheriff to give them Roland the sheriff Willard McCullough actually did his job and not only did not turn him over, but had his men barricade the third floor where the kid was being held to protect him from the mob. So he full on did his job here. Good for that sheriff. We don't get to hear about that very often. Like people in these stories don't tend to do their job. pulpit leader group of 25 armed black men showed up including a lot of World War One veteran saying, hey, we'll do the gardening for you. Again doing his job. He said no go home. Because that's literally not something he can allow. He can't allow our militia to come into the police station. Yeah. And it doesn't sound like they tried to force the issue in response to this because this makes logic sense. The white mob was like we hate you now and tried to break into the National Guard Armory. Because the sheriff didn't let the black militia in to guard the kid the white guys got mad and tried to break into the armory.
Yeah, this is this is making 100% redneck sense right now.
Then, since there was still the possibility of a lynching now that the white guys are trying to get more arms. I don't think they actually managed to break out and 75 more armed black men showed up about an hour later, and then 1500 white dudes showed up. So we have 100 armed black guys and then probably close to 2000 white dudes. Most of whom are armed because of one kid who was being barricaded in the third floor of the courthouse at this point, people start shooting. Not sure what side started shooting one side both sides doesn't matter, but the black group was like, Oh fuck, and ran the Greenwood because they were so outnumbered and white Tolson, instead of going, Oh, they're gone. lost their absolute fucking minds. The sheriff have been doing his job. There are still city officials who are absolute human garbage. So they sort of deputizing these white guys and handing them weapons basically saying go forth, kill the black people. I am giving you official capacity in which to do this and a police weapon. Why? Why? For hours white people just went into went into Greenwood and are coming back acts of violence against black people including just shooting an unarmed guy who made the mistake of going to a movie that night like so these were not people who were out there trying to fight this model. Come in. These are just people going about their day. Some of them probably didn't even know what had happened that day just being shot by white people now kinda reminds me of what happened after Katrina and that one neighborhood in New Orleans where it was basically a bunch of white guys misspelled militia and stuff like that a lot of times on the back of trucks and start shooting black people and actually we're putting out like, Don't black people don't come here because we are an alpha game. That's what this was. Oh,
God. I feel like we made a mistake. We let the South back in the Union.
We've learned so many things. But then the stories about the black insurrection began black till sons were gathering forces. People from outside of Tulsa were coming in to join them. They were going to fight back they were going to cause rioting, they were going to start killing all the white people. Except they weren't none of that was actually happening.
I'm like, this is the same bullshit. We here on fox news now.
Yeah, they the people in Greenland were literally trying to either escape Greenwood or hide at this point. And we think 10,000 people, it might math based on something later is right. About 4000 of them were children. Oh, yeah. Early in the morning on June 1, remember he got arrested on May 31. All of this happened in the evening and overnight on May 31. We're on June 1 round dawn right now, white people entered Greenwood in mass and lit the town on fire. They looted the businesses as well. Firefighters show up to do their jobs and are turned away at gunpoint, like the firefighters are there and the white guys come up to them with their guns and say get the fuck out or we will kill all of you. So the firefighters can't put this out. The Red Cross would later say that around 1256 houses burned down 215 houses were looted but not burned down. And two newspapers, a bunch of hotel stores, other businesses and of course a school. several churches, a hospital and a library were either destroyed or badly damaged by the fires somewhere between Oh, I think it was eight and 10 thousand people? No not not that many. And I'll get to the number of it but thousands people were left homeless after this day. And not only were people lighting fires on the ground, there was actually a historical story that people brought in planes to firebomb them. I don't I found this in one source. And yes, it was a reputable, reputable source, but I doubt it. And here's why airplanes were invented in 1903. I think this is 1921 commercial air travel wouldn't become popular into the 1950s planes were not easily accessible unless the military came in and did this themselves, which is not impossible, based on one of the books said, but I don't think they did.
This is unlikely there's lots of rich oil people around if someone's gonna have planes,
it would be loyal people unlikely that there's wasn't I only found this on one source. So I don't want to say this definitely happened. But it could have happened around noon the National Guard did arrive martial law was declared I didn't dig super deep as it were with the P it comes in Wikipedia showed me a list of 40 times in which martial law has been declared the United States. We know for a fact martial law was declared during this Wikipedia should be listed 14 times this was not on the list. That's important for a couple of reasons. One being that this is under taught, and so whoever wrote that Wikipedia page may not have known to is that this was actively covered up, which I'll get to in more detail. You might think that arrests were not Oh, think about that, though. Oh, there it is. The National criminal criminal justice reference service, which is a government run website said martial law has been declared nine times since World War Two. So that is after this, they didn't have anything about pre World War Two, five of those nine times that martial law was declared was to counter desegregation resistance in the south. So we've had to declare martial law since World War Two over 50% of the time was because of racism.
The other the other times are also some somehow related to like, you know, other things. Things like the various riots after Martin Luther King's death,
or Yeah, they didn't I just read the abstract for it. I didn't want to read this whole, like thesis five out of the nine times were because of desegregation resistance. You might think that arrest warrant happening during those riots and massacre stuff. But that's not true. The Oklahoma National Guard shows up and arrest the entire black population. What if they had not already been arrested or in or put or put in some kind of lockdown by other people? They were arrested by the National Guard. But now I'm not. Now that's this might get a little confused because there was a population of around 10,000 black people 6000 arrests were made, which makes me think about 4000 of them were children or had escaped, because I didn't see a whole lot about them arresting children specifically and I feel like that would have popped up. But basically, if you were black, you ended up arrested and held at the Tulsa fairgrounds and I went to the Tulsa State Fair almost every single year when I lived there, and I wonder if it's the same fairgrounds and it was just never brought up and some of them were held for up to eight days. What they ended They've not committed a crime in many cases, they witnessed residents of Greenwood who had miraculously not died. And they got arrested for being black. And for no other reason. Fuck Tulsa cheese us and implies that it was in part, this is a Tulsa history.org was actually a really good source for most of this. And they were very judgmental for the most part, but they kind of implied this was for the safety of the black people. Like, you know, it'd be really safe for them as a rest in the white guys.
Yeah, like maybe these rioting, murdering native vigilantes, because this isn't like justice. This is just spite.
You want to know how many people are prosecuted after this? How many zero, white or black? Zero people were prosecuted, the people who were arrested who were black were held because they were black. No white people were arrested or prosecuted at any point by any local government. No white people were arrested as far as I could find at all.
Yeah, I think we have found very definitive evidence that there is Time travel, because someone should have what someone would have traveled back in time and just done something about this.
Now the official desk count of all of this is 26 Black 10 white people that it's a lie. It is a big pile of bullshit, which I will talk to you more about in a second. With that count, though, let's pretend for a second that that is real. The Tulsa race massacre is the second deadliest riot in US history, beaten by the New York draft rights of 1863, which had 119 deaths. This is where I remember how many remember how long I told you. This lasted a hard may 31 into June 1. The draft riots began on the 13th of a month and ended on the 16th. So somewhere between three and four days for them. This was 18 hours in 18 hours even using the bullshit official numbers. They had the second deadliest right in American history. 35 city blocks burned to the ground and Tulsa in 18 hours. Now let's talk about how the black people were allowed to leave jail. You know how you know typically when you're allowed to leave, you pay some bail, you sign some forms, you might have to go back to court later. I don't know that I've ever been this angry in order to be released from jail for being black while living in Tulsa because after a master of your people, a white person had to come sign you out and take responsibility for your behavior for the rest of your life. Basically, they were the cosigner on your existence after that a white person had to come out true for you to be allowed out of jail after being arrested for your home being burned down by white people. Yeah, just why Why? Why Tulsa? And the thing is in history classes, if we were taught this, I'm sure they would focus on the fact that that means 6000 people did come to the rescue.
No, no, my people did not come to the rescue. I
mean, it's like, Yeah, and that's great that there are people who were like, you know why I want to get this people out of jail. That's great. Where were they went during the massacre by one day stopping it. Why did they allow this to happen in the first place? Why did they allow These officials who deputized with these dumb asses, it's great that these people went and were like, Okay, I'm going to put my neck on the line for you because From now on, I will be also in trouble if you do something, but that also kind of assumes that they're going to do something I don't like I said, I don't know that I've ever been that angry in order for you a black person to be let out of jail. A white person had to come say you were okay.
Okay, I want to really interject more in this but all I've been injecting is like,
Oh, it's bullshit. It's like this is awful. Fuck Tulsa, like just oh my god. Why are we letting Tulsa still be a city Tulsa also refused offers of outside aid to their largely homeless and pop rate impoverished Greenland population. Of course they did. The Red Cross was like fuck you and came in anyway, and the director became the creator of one of the few remaining official documents of the time, he kept a journal of everything that was going on, which is one of the few official documents that remains a lot of other individuals from Tulsa. And the surrounding area also came to help but I didn't have a way to write about that at all. That didn't sound white Saberi. So it's not to downplay the fact that people came to help. That is great. That's important. You should always go help no matter what race anybody is that's involved. You shouldn't feel like you shouldn't help just cuz you're white. But I also don't want them to be the focus here because white people are the villains in the sky
feel like the reason Tulsa gets hit by so many tornadoes hurt so many tornadoes is because of this. This is whatever divine force of justice is in the universe trying to wipe Tulsa off the map for this bullshit.
They have this thing they're called gusta. NATO's which is basically an itty bitty tornado that hits a very small area and by very small i can i mean like it can be just a few feet. We had one in our backyard when I lived there. So this was they actually said like if you live in this exact suburb get into hiding now and Oklahoma for the most part doesn't have basement So you went into the cupboard under the stairs like Harry Potter and when We got we got out everything was fine after a few hours. The next morning my dad pulls out of the driveway and our lawn furniture is down the street. And it is wrought iron lawn furniture. Wow, the entire set is down the street blocking the intersection. So he goes and he gets it brings it back and he brings back to the backyard. And our massive grill is upside down in the middle of the yard. Our next door neighbor had toddlers there were toddler toys in their backyard untouched. So I sure hope that they're not coming after us for this because we aren't much of the we are not the massacring types in my family. As far as I know know as Wilson's worked to rebuild segregation got worse and the KKK which was actually relatively new and Oklahoma got stronger. There was also a full blown let's pretend that this never happened. Official. Let's pretend this never happened. Remember how the Tulsa Tribune ran that front page story? Yeah, they literally removed it from their archives that was gone. Whoa. Unless You have a newspaper from that day, there was no evidence that that existed, the police and the state militia destroyed all documentation about this entire event. So the actual police presence, the militia, anything that was there that day gone. This was a concerted official effort to make this have never happened, which makes it very interesting when it comes to the burials of the people. Tulsa history.org even calls it one of the most significant events in the city's history. But the city itself tried to make it disappear. If you're a fan of irony, that's great. It wasn't until the 1970s after the 50 year anniversary that people actually were like, Wait a second, okay. I've been hearing about this thing my entire life, but I've never learned about it. I've never seen anything about it. Is this true? Or is this one of those local legends that only 50 years ago we massacre people in 1996 when I lived there, by the way, they actually held a service at Mount Zion baptist church which had been burned to the ground, and a memorial was put at the Greenwood Cultural Center didn't say a damn word about it in my school. Wow. But in fairness. This was the year after Oklahoma history. So it's unreasonable to expect them to mention this major.
But they were teaching it. I mean, why? Why do they need to make this law they were definitely teaching it.
In 1997, again, still lived in Oklahoma never heard about this and official state government commission was created cause called the 1921 race riot commission. It consisted of historians and scientists who looked into unmarked graves and tried to find any accounts that they could remember, it's been 75 years at this time. Most people who had been old enough to remember this are long dead, you might be lucky to have a few people who are like 10 to 15 years old, that are still alive, and hopefully still lucid enough to actually tell you this, or there might be grandkids or somebody who's like, here's my mom's dick, my mom's diary from that time, they're not gonna be able to get much in the way of first hand accounts. In 2001. They concluded that the number of 36 was bullshit. And between 103 hundred people were killed, making this bigger than the New York draft riot. This is the unless they had 118 or fewer die. This is bigger, and more than 8000 people of the 10,000 residents of Greenwood were homeless. The Commission ultimately said that these were not myths, not rumors, not speculations not questioned. These are historical records, as some people were actively denying that this happened or that things were exaggerated, kind of like the Holocaust. In this case, though, unlike the Holocaust, there weren't records. And there are minimal photos. There are photos we go to the other night, you can find some minimal in 2018. They made the very wise decision to change the name of the commission from the race riot commission to the race massacre commission. Because that's what it was or riot implies people were a little more willing and a little less genocide at the whole time. There had been rumors of mass grapes. Remember how I said that this kind of The question there have been rumors of mass graves in the hundred years since this happened. Neither we don't have HBO. You know, the series watchmen has been getting like really good reviews. Yeah, their pilot episode was the Tulsa race massacre. And they go to the mass graves story. Now obviously, this is fiction. This is a fictionalized version. People are kind of like, wait, what is this thing? What did this really happen? People start researching it. In December of 2019 employees of the University of Oklahoma found what they believe to be a mass grave at a City Cemetery from that massacre. They use geophysical scanning which basically lets you like scan the underground area for anomalies before you start to dig is like used to be we'll just start digging and be like, hopefully we find a skull. And now you actually get to look first to see if it's worth the time the effort. I think this is how they find bodies and backyards now, yeah, like the turnpike. I think
they call it ground credit ground penetrating radar. You may have seen it in the classic film Jurassic Park.
See it thinking more about the time like, they always knew that the dad had killed the mom and the kid even said like my, he told me my mom was buried in the backyard but by the time they listened to her that somebody else had bought the house and they didn't want their yard backup without reasons they use this. You and I have very different associations with this. So they in the Oakland Oak Lawn Cemetery, they found two spots that they believe to have mass graves, one of them is a 30 by 25 foot trench, the number of bodies and the condition there of is unknown. And then they also think there is something similar in the Booker T Washington cemetery also in Tulsa, but it's it's a private cemetery so they need permission to go in and scan they have not been given permission yet as at the time of this article. They are securing the sites but they don't know what the next steps will be if they'll be allowed to excavate. excavation will be incredibly difficult. exhumation is very unlikely, it's likely that they will just see if it is a mass grave or not. And identification is probably impossible. So even if they have people who were like my relatives disappeared, the condition that the bodies will like Be in it will make it impossible to identify any of them but yeah so it sounds like the mass graves are probably real Wow. Now that could very much be part of the cover up that could also be we can't afford to bury our loved ones that we were not expecting to bury. Here's a big open grave that you can
I guess it's like we have lost everything and family members died. Yeah, this was just all around and absolutely shitty situation. And yeah,
fuck you Tulsa. Yeah. So now though you might have forgotten by Dick about dip Roland by now. I hadn't forgotten about
So he was that kid. He's a teenager. He's sexual assaults the beginning of this. He was inside the courthouse the entire time. He never was part of the massacre. He was never out there. Because at some point during those 18 hours, all the charges were dropped. He didn't do anything. Wow, he had never assaulted Sarah page
and they were still coming to kill him.
Yeah, I don't know if Sarah page dropped the charges. I don't know if the city dropped the charges. I don't know if Sarah page ever even made the The charges are it was just the city that that there is no information about her that I could find what they believe happened is he stumbled and bumped into her and possibly stepped on her foot, which would result in a startled scream. There is no evidence whatsoever that he assaulted her in any way. So he was allowed to leave once the massacres were over. Like usually if your targets have dropped, they let you go right away. And with him, they're like, nope.
Yeah, nope. You say you're saying no, there's still there's still a budget. There's still a bunch of angry idiot white people out there trying to break into an armory and kill Yeah, so you're gonna stay here for a little? Yeah,
it's like, I don't know what the sheriff was doing during the massacre. What if anything he was trying to do to stop it because there is little evidence that the police tried to stop it. I mean, but at least he did this part of his job.
It's like what there's like, what, 1500 people
more than that, by the end? Yeah, it's like thousands, thousands.
That's like more cops than we're probably in the state of Oklahoma. There's there was nothing they could do to stop that.
Well, today, green was still there. It is still largely African American. With them making up about two thirds of the whole population, and actually sounds like a really cool area. It has like the arts district. They're planning and putting a BMX headquarters there. They have a minor league baseball team. And they this I thought thought was really cool sounding. They have a shopping center made out of empty shipping containers.
Okay, that is pretty cool.
Yeah, so it's still there. And they are undergoing currently a major revitalization at the centennial of all of this happening saying look, we're still here Fuck you. So at least there's that so not a whole lot of a happy note to end this on. No, but cheese. But you know, they went from having being was booming district in the 1920s for the black population to 80% of their population being homeless. Now to being a pretty frightening district again, quite the bell curve. Oh my god. So
I had heard a little bit about this like before, this like those kind of muscles. It goes like one of the like, deadliest riots in American history wasn't Tolson like no one's ever heard about it. That was all I heard, and hearing all of it laid out. It's just
Oh, one of us has to be a major bummer every episode and it seems to be me most of the time, man. Of course, I'm the one who's like getting into racism and sexism most the time and you're like, look at this cool Admiral. I'm like, God damn it. Why can't I be like you? Sometimes
I have a simple man of simple pleasures.
Well, I think I know what I'm covering next week, I hope anyway, and if I am, I think it's a little lighter.
That's okay. Um, I'm looking into. I'm currently reading a book, which is going pretty slowly, because I'm taking way too many notes. I'm deciding to stop. But it's
Yes. This was one that was recommended by Pliny the Elder was
like a month ago and halfway through this book, and I love it.
So plenty we did listen, he is reading it. I'm
gonna try and get to that next week. And I am so excited, because it's got everything I love, and everything that's going to get you rambling about something. So
you'd have your questions. No Well, the fact that nearly the entire black population of Tulsa was arrested but no white people were be on the test. Yes. Well, the fact that a white person had to sign out and take responsibility for a black person before they could be released beyond the test,
Unknown Speaker 1:02:14
Well, the fact that Greenwood is was actually thriving in the 1920s before This Be On The Test. Yeah. And well, the fact that Oklahomans were so into into vigilante justice that they lynched anybody they could be on the test
understand why we don't talk about like, why don't we talk about the fact that people of all ethnicities were lunch but the white guys were always the bad guy and that looks like like I'm not saying that it wasn't affecting black people at a much higher rate because it was but if we're good and be the villains and history that we are,
Unknown Speaker 1:02:49
let us be those fucking villains because it's, it's weird. It's like one of those like
Western things where it's like, it was out on the front here and in these lawless areas that have been so goddamn romanticized. That's like, Oh, yeah, these Callen wrestlers, we caught them and we're just gonna string them up and then apparently it carries over into Oklahoma of all fucking places and they keep doing it into like, well into the 20th century.
Yeah we forget that how recently This was happened I mean lynching still happen yeah, just not very often and then and then there are variations on them but like it's not quite a lynching it's not quite in a tree but maybe it's on a fence post people are still Brad behind trucks people are like it's we we are not learning no extra.
Extra judicial killings are just a bad
idea. Oh my god, the slaughter that they did of Bloomberg. Oh, Jesus. Oh, they're like, Hey, remember all these things you did that Trump also did? Remember y'all obey just didn't get my joke. Hey, remember when Trump said that? So?
I'm seen in Game of Thrones where denarius is talking to all the Dothraki lords and like you She just goes shuts the door starts just knocking over the like the torches in the breakers so they all burn to death and she just walks out. I feel like that's what Elizabeth Warren did the Bloomberg in this debate.
I feel like that's what Elizabeth Warren does in most room she enters, which is why people are afraid of her. It's like, Look, we have this completely qualified candidate right here who's been doing this for decades and understands things at the national level. And then we've got a two term mayor. I think it's two terms
of a small town in Indiana.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:29
Not Indiana, Colorado, isn't it? Indiana? Really? We're talking about booty Shake.
Yeah, that is from Colorado. He's from Indiana.
I'm like 9,000% sure that he's the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.
Okay, I'm sure you're right. I'm mostly just mad at him. He's
basically like a character from Parks and Recreation, but without the fun and charm.
I'm mad at him right now. And then there's like Joe Biden going Wait, we're not talking about my racism right now. Cool. No, I mean, granted, he never referred to Tip somebody as a horseface lesbian at least
Unknown Speaker 1:05:01
but or if he did, he didn't do it in public, which is not great. Not great, but I also don't think he probably would have ice. I like Joe Biden. I do not plan on voting for Joe Biden in the primary. But you know, he's not bad.
Oh, Hickenlooper. Yeah.
Hickenlooper was the governor of Colorado. She's running for he's running for the Senate seat in Colorado against I won't say gardener gardener. I don't know. I don't know garden, someone.
But yeah, it's like the main point here is not so much who we're voting for, but how much Elizabeth Warren slaughters everyone around her and no one seems to notice.
I She is 100%, the smartest, most qualified, best prepared person running for president I'm going to say in my lifetime, and yet,
she made the mistake of being born female. It's like what a terrible choice.
I mean, I made a pretty bad mistake. Being born into a not rich family. Yeah, why? Why do we make these choices we make? I don't know. It was like I was a baby. It was a bad decision.
Yeah, it's like we if we'd been smart we both live in born rich white men.
Yeah, I got only got two of the three man only two out of the three. And I am wasting my white male privilege.
I am white. And that's as far as that goes. Yeah, but I am very white.
I think I'm still whiter than you.
Remember. I put on some tanning lotion. Oh, okay. Yeah, but not on my face because I'm not an idiot. And I'm still cracks me up. I'm still nowhere near a skin tone. Yet you're you've gone from
I'm gonna say copy paper to resume paper resume paper.
Yep. So what's something you learned? Just Just fuck Tulsa. Jesus. I knew it was bad, but Oh my God. He Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I never heard about this until they announced this week that this was going to have to be taught. I lived there. I brought this up. Like, during my Clara loop, I presented the third looper episode about an Air Force about the Air Force.
I think it was I miss heard something about Yeah, I was like the bombing. But yeah, that was just Oh, dude.
Yeah, there's just nothing positive to take out of mind. Other than at least it's not 1921 anymore.
Yeah, we've gotten cut and considerably better the last hundred years in some ways.
The one thing that I mentioned in here that I didn't actually say was the difference between now and then. And the thing that makes now a little better is 24 hour news coverage. They can't pretend shut doesn't happen anymore. Yeah, they can't hook up. Let's just lose this newspaper page. Because even let's pretend for a second that the news coverage was like nope, we're not going YouTube. Yeah, people get out their fucking phone back. Look what is happening.
Yet we live in a world in which beyond say Beyonce cannot get rid of a unflattering photo of herself from the internet. There's no way that this is going to stay hidden. Yeah, like now.
I mean, we still have shit like this happening in like Ferguson, Missouri. Yeah. So I can't say that we are necessarily better people on the whole, but I can say that we can't fucking hide it anymore.
Yeah. So did you learn anything about add? Really?
I learned that Adam really exists. I feel just my answer half the time. Yeah. existed give me a fat. I like that he basically was an army of like 150 total against thousands and was like, Oh, no, we got this. Like, I like stories where where the guy shouldn't win. It's like, you know, Harry Potter. They're really like an army of three or a good chunk of it. And they're like, nope, we're still gonna take you all down.
So does that mean you're gonna watch that really awesome looking Ben Affleck movie where he told where he coaches that team of basketball players who are kind of misfits and to be in great.
No, I'm not a big fan of white savior movies or Ben Affleck or Oh, I did I did left. He gave up his full ride Kansas because he didn't want to be a basketball player because his dad wanted. I'm like, I'm sorry. He didn't want to go to college for free because he wanted to piss off his dad. I actually we're going to Lawrence in a few weeks. Yeah, we're gonna go see Welcome to Night Vale live. I am so excited. I love welcome tonight. They'll often doesn't like podcast fiction. Yeah, which he loves audiobooks. I can't figure out how he sees a difference.
Unknown Speaker 1:09:27
I think it's
I don't know, there's just like, it's something about it's just not right.
I think it's because you don't want to wait. That might be it because like Austin also didn't want to watch Brooklyn nine nine until the season was over because you don't want to wait.
Unknown Speaker 1:09:39
see, I'm like, I want to watch Brooklyn nine nine, so I don't get spoilers. So we're watching Brooklyn nine nine because I win.
Yes, she always wins.
Awesome. You can't apply that to things like master singer. Uh, well, we are in the middle of a transition over from anchor to pod bean as our host. That's why You didn't hear potentially didn't hear the anchor ad last week and you're not going to be hearing one this week. It's not that we're like angry, fuck you anchor or anything, it just was no longer the best fit for us.
Yeah, it wasn't reporting our metrics very well. So who knows, we might learn that we have more than like, seven listeners we have like 1213.
So we are in the middle of that there might be some hiccups along the way, we're still working on getting the 301 redirect to work. So there's a chance that I'm saying all of this, but no one can hear it
yet. True. I mean, we're recording this, this isn't live
gonna punch you in the face. abuse, abuse abuse. So what I understand it as though is that it's just kind of slowly transitioning. So hopefully, it'll be done. They said it might take up to a week and by the time this goes up, it will get a week. So fingers crossed, but all works. Hopefully you'll be getting more stuff from us both on our podcast and on our social media.
You can find us at the test pod on Twitter, at the test pod on Instagram at all the test pod on Facebook and
What's our website again? on the test? pod.com? Yeah, we tried to have a longer one, but it just didn't work out for us. And I really hate because our email address actually is Will This Be On The Test pod at gmail. com and I'm like, I hate typing this. It's too long. So if you want to reach us, go to social media or just go to our website, there's a contact page on there.
Yeah. Get a hold of us. We'd love to hear any corrections suggestions. He would.
I want foments I want compliments. We had a complete stranger give us a positive review on Apple, I guess. Like we were like, looking at it go Who the hell is this clean? Assume there was someone we knew. And so we like we contact with the one person who could have been and they were like, what? No, I don't care that much about you.
Even though actually, which is really weird, because we just look at the history of you. And my sister was like, texting me like, Oh my God, why did you think platypuses were grosser than cholera? You're what is fucking wrong with you? And that my sister and
that's who we thought the other person might have better But it was it so but Hey friends and family Why haven't you reviewed us yet? Come on, dude. All of you have Apple Apple phones all of you all of you do not know how to do it I'll come over and help you
granted we try to do that on over Thanksgiving break and none of you let us thanks
so we know you're listening we know that you know what you're up to but also if you're not one of our family, friends or family you're also allowed to rate and subscribe and to that one stranger who did Thank you very much. We are very excited about it and we get if we get enough
like you know five star reviews and like all that stuff. We are going to do a bad movie review podcasts so heads up
an episode probably not a whole podcast that an entire podcast just an episode. Although we could do a bad movie review podcast.
We could we love our bad movies. We've got a Nicolas Cage one downstairs right now.
On Valentine's Day all we did all day was watch bad horror movies. It was a great day.
Yeah, it ribs in bed, watch bad horror movies.
Valentine's Day is stupid for the dumbest We did eat $60 per candy. So because we're adults, and our girl scout cookies came in just in time Yeah, right I like candy. Alright, so hopefully next week I will have a little bit more positivity to bring you and
Austin will have a lot more gross medical stuff to bring do
that's what we do best. And on that note Class dismissed
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