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Episode 13: The Soviet Space Program and The June Rebellion (or, What Really Happened in Les Miserables)
The robots wrote this. From the quality, you can see that the robot revolution won' be for a good while.
Hi, everybody, this is Mattie,
this is Austin.
And we are Will This Be On the Test? We are very appreciative of you putting up with us last week when we had to put out that largely unedited episode because
it was awful you. You did not want to hear us.
No, not at all. But we got a lot better after that Monday was Austin's birthday. He's old now. What the first thing I said to him when he woke up with your third of the way to 100 Happy birthday.
Yeah, I didn't feel an old old at all that moment.
And then he tried to argue that he was that way last year, which didn't help the situation.
Yeah, it's like, I'm pleased. I'm far more than a third of the way to 100 now,
you're half you were six months beyond the technical halfway point or something like that. I'm not really sure how math works. I'm not either, but for a brief time I get to be younger than him.
Yeah, enjoy it before you hit my hideous old age.
We keep finding out more and more people who have accomplished more than us by this age was issued the Prime Minister, Finland
Prime Minister of I'm gonna say Finland.
Yeah, Who's 34? It's been a crazy couple of weeks this impeachment stuff is going bananas. Yeah.
And again, it's still very possible that that just could be trial by combat once it hits the Senate.
I kind of hope so. Because the way it's looking now, see, remember in that episode, I said that there really are no rules the senate can flat out refuse to hear it, they can start it but immediately declare a verdict. They don't have to talk to anybody. Well, we've got these politicians who have actually said, we're in deep conversation about this with the White House. And these are the ones who make the decision. They're actually saying we will do whatever the White House says, which goes in direct opposition to what the founding fathers intended with the impeachment process. And I'd be saying that no matter what party this person was it and this is not how you're supposed to behave. Yeah, but it's technically not against the rules. It's just against the rules of human decency and goes in the face of the spirit of the Constitution.
This is basically your little brother sitting in the back of the car waving his hands in front of your face going,
I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. It is technically the truth, but it's annoying and dickish leaving, or when they start like messing with something in the backseat. Like, remember back in the day when they had the chop the locks that weren't childproof, they could pull them up, down, pull up and push it down.
And then you heard about them going after grabbing bernburg for what she said, right? Oh, of course he up against the wall thing. Oh, do you hear about this? I did not hear about this.
So Greg Thornburg was saying we need to put our politicians against the wall, which people largely interpreted as we need to execute them because executions have traditionally been against a wall and the language that she is translating for remind me what country she's from sweden, sweden. Thank you. I have to say Sweden, but I don't want to get it wrong. The language that she's translating from the literal translation of what what she's saying is against a wall. But what it actually means is we need to put them in a place where they have to make a decision now kind of our rock and hard place. So she hasn't had to make an apology statement saying this is what happens when English isn't your first language you're trying to get things across. I think anybody with half a brain would know what she was trying to say though.
Yeah, well, context context close.
Well, it's been one heck of a couple of weeks here but we're back to normal is normal this weekend? So we're going by the rules of the episode before we got sick. So I went first with Timothy Baxter that time, that means often gets to go first this time.
Yay. And I've got a awful horrifying one for you. Are you ready for this? Excellent. So remember when we learned about the space race?
Well, basically the space race started when those those Russians managed to launch Sputnik into space and know America was nowhere near having these type of rockets. But then you know what? We buckled down and use our American know how to live Neil Armstrong on the moon before those damn commies good.
I always liked the word Sputnik,
Sputnik. It's a fun word. And, of course, like we learned about Sputnik, which was in 1957, it was the first man made satellite was launched by the Russians. And then they had another big first, which is the only other thing I learned about them in school, which was your a garden. In 1961. He was the first man in space. So then America starts really getting in the space race then and we just start running by American stuff, because we're in America. And we don't want any more about the Soviet space program, which was more advanced than ours when it all started, but we caught up and I want to talk about the Soviet space program.
I'm kind of curious to know like we caught up but how many like safety corners did we cut to do it? We just really lucky.
Oh, no, we cut so many fewer quarters to them. So he gets it. I'm going to
talk about that. Okay, first, it was about
another big First they had and this guy is a absolute badass. It's a Lexi lead off he was the first spacewalks It was the first man to leave a space capsule and do the spacewalk thing. I do know this one. Yes, he was outside spacecraft for 12 minutes and nine seconds and he was connected to it by a 16 foot tether. So just kind of floating in space, like proving that you could survive in space and the spacesuits Can
you imagine how terrified he must have secretly been even more terrified than we thought?
Because it didn't go so very well. His spaceship in flames in the vacuum? Oh, no. Yeah. And as a result, he couldn't bend his arms well enough to take photos of the ship was on a spacewalk. And he also could not fit back in the patch. Oh, no. So he actually had to drain air off of his space suit to be able to fit in the hatch and get into the spacecraft after a spacewalk because his space suit inflated like a giant bubble.
So after the best thing ever, worst day ever
is kind of both. He also almost died of heatstroke while he was out there. Yeah, while he was out there because, you know, we talked about you know, space being super cold. Well, if you're in the sun space is also dangerously hot. So this
Yeah, space is either so cold will kill you or so poppy will kill you there is no in between.
So space is Kansas.
Yeah, so really they should have attended Kansans instead of Soviets also. And this is important that we didn't learn a lot of this stuff in school because it was still classified largely while our teachers were in school. And some of the time when we were in school meet again, they didn't let us know about their successes really what they were doing, they wanted to use things for propaganda. So look at these amazing advances we're making in Belgium of it, and they also wanted to cover up any failures and anything that went wrong. So we just didn't know about a lot of this stuff and the truth about most of the space program until the 90s. So we're going to talk about another topic first and there was the story as one so yes, so he has what it was a basically landing pots it's the Soyuz pods are what we use currently. The space program to to go to and return from the International Space Station but they've advanced quite a bit so this was a big disaster from the start. It was piloted by Colonel Vladimir killer of solar panels when they launched did not deploy properly. So the spacecraft was losing power rapidly and couldn't operate. A lot of it's like, you know, guidance things are it stabilization system. So he was basically just freely tumbling in space instead of like, kind of like not tumbling and space. And the manual system they had in place as a backup did not work particularly well. So he was basically just out of control in space. There was a second launch that was going to come up like shortly after that to run a deal with him. But it's the launch also didn't go well. Because right before they did the launch, there was a big thunderstorm that affected the electrical system in the other pod. They're going to cut them meet them and hopefully repair him. So they scrapped that mission. So he was going to try and land this thing in a not ideal conditions. And in the sense the pod got tangled and it's parachutes. And it impacted at 140 kilometers an hour into the earth at nine miles an hour. Thank you, Americans. This was a notable first because it was the first death in flight and the space program.
So that was the Alexia
that was Vladimir Cobra. Okay, Alexi didn't die until this year. I think he was in October 2019. Oh, wow. Yeah, he was pretty much about us.
Like he tell everybody about the aliens. He saw
no, but he did write some books with American astronauts talk about space, and really worked with us with people talk about the Soviet space program in like, he wrote a book. That's pretty neat. I want to read it.
Yes, there were aliens. Fine. So that was so he has one. Let's talk about Soyuz. 11. Okay. This was another gigantic disaster. It depressurized in the sense and the crew succeeded.
Yeah, that's what what happened?
Yes. The crew Greg Every drop of lossky by this love Volkov and Victor pot save the crew of it all died in space they were the first death to actually occur in space. Alexia Lin Lin off the first spacewalk I were just talking about. He was going to be the originally was the commander of this mission. But they pulled him off because they wanted to focus on the Soviet moon mission because it involves a spacewalk. And he was currently the X the world's expert on spacewalks. So he went him involved with that he was had some concerns about these, these pods. And that his big problem was that they didn't trust a lot of these automatic systems, and was insisting on like manual checks of these various valves and things that they were using. his advice was ignored, and they they think that's what led to the pod depressurizing was they do a final check. And some things just let were left open and all of the air went out of the pod.
It's amazing how often that happens. If there's an expert saying guys, this is going to kill somebody or guys, this is is broken me to fix it. And we know better than you expert on the situation
that they're not sure if they did or not because they all died and there weren't really quick records. Side note, we did that they died in the sense but because the Soviets were so like secretive about everything we didn't know the exact cause of death for years, and it freaked out American space programs, because we didn't know how they died. And there were lots of scientists time claiming that they died due to prolonged exposure to weightlessness, huh? Yes, not true. And so that was the early explanation. So it freaked out a lot of people working on Skylab, the American space station at the time. So it was it was a little terrifying again, because they didn't tell us and we were just basically left guessing we know what's going on. Also on so here's one there is an urban legend that the NSA and the listening station it's somewhere like wherever I think it was in tears expand or one of the stands heard his radio communications hasn't in his the sense That he was basically cursing at the flight engineers and people around this program and like basically promising to come back and haunt them.
I hope he is
that was proved that was proven to be not true.
I still hope he is
but it was one of those good old fashioned Cold War American know how look at the commies propaganda
my friend who just went off i don't know why
i probably said some magic trick or words he
said. They're printing off things he's telling
us they are freaking us. We're getting our script from the NSA. I want to talk about them. Because, you know, they listen to our podcast, they listened to everything they do. I really feel so sorry for the NSA guy who is tasked with listening to our podcast.
I was thinking the other day, you know, the NSA, they're trying to look out for these red flags and your searches around over with the true crime phenomenon that's happening. They have to like parse out murderer or want to be detected
or just Curious, bored person at work, nothing I've ever done that you're never bored at work, never bored at work. Actually, I'm here to really important work because of my job. I do too. So we're now we're going to get out of the big tragedies and start talking about the Soviet like lunar program, okay, which was designed and the N one slash l three, which again, were classified until 1990. And we didn't know anything about them. We knew that they existed, but we didn't know any of the specifics. So basically, the liaison program was from 1967 to 1970. It was basically a smaller rocket that couldn't launch it was falling up, you can watch you to like go around the wound and cinch up back. But it wasn't strong enough to watch you into an orbit of the moon. I'm doing hand gestures that are very helpful for everybody. But I think it's working for you.
I think I kind of understand understood flu shot versus orbit without the hand gestures.
Well, fine. I'm going to start making canto patrique go he needed the hand gesture. He's a good boy so early so he can rocket is a very stripped down mission and only the seventh and eighth is on launch because we're actually manned and xon seven the first manned Russian mission that actually went around the moon circled the moon just a month after Apollo 11 landed so they were really just right behind us this entire space race we did not have the giant pull away victory without and so the song program was cancelled in 1970 and then we're gonna get to their big rocket this was the N one slash three program this was the real deal moon mission the gigantic rocket it was still smaller than the Saturn five rocket which is what we used for the Apollo program to get to the moon which is still the slope March rocket ever created. And did you know that we have lost the plans to be Apollo rock to the Saturn five rocket
late so they're called both Okay, Saturn is the name of the rocket oppose the mission.
Yeah, basically the Saturn five rocket is like the big rocket part and making very obscene gestures doing this. And the Apollo part was like the mandatory Draco
Draco wants to be on the podcast he's putting his face direct
rate go. Okay, so yeah the Saturn five was the big rocket part that the little watching in the Apollo part was the tip. The tip was important part was the tip of the top and when we had all the crew and stuff, where's the load? So this big rocket with thrust up there and deliver this payroll load all over the face of the moon and treecko Okay, but he going down.
thrust is my least favorite word.
Is thruster moist? Yeah,
it is. There's just something about the way it sounds I just don't like it.
Well, we're gonna be talking a lot about the scientific and the scientific term. Rockets rockets are gross. So right this way all rockets are giant penis. Penis metaphors. Yes, this way more so than most because it really did look like a giant tapered penis. And also the payload was smaller. So it had been about the third of the mass of the Apollo missions. And they had to make a lot of cutbacks. And basically, through all safety concerns out the window, if this was even in the work, so the plant crew would be able to be two people, one would stay up in the module and one with land on the moon, there was no docking tunnel between the two parts of it. So to get to the lander part, you have to do a spacewalk, which is why which is why they brought the Lexi on board. And again, super dangerous. There was no backups, very few redundant systems, but it still had the potential to work kind of it was also about as likely to kill everyone involved, which, again, the Apollo programs not exactly safe, but so much safer than this. Because they were underfunded, they were rushed. Lots of people involved with it died and it was just a big deal and lots of political pressure that was just not being you know, again, like we need to finish this now, but they couldn't end it. There is a was a rush job on cheap. And of course the England rocket which was a road exploded. Was there were other people on it or when unfortunately they were unmanned. Okay. These are early tests, actually the second launch attempt crashed on the launch pad and caused one of the largest non nuclear explosions in history. Wow. We didn't learn about this until the 90s. This was very like, kept secret.
The actual largest non nuclear explosion was when Tyra Banks got really mad at one of the models and America's Next Top Model. I saw that
and even then it looked rehearsing think it was rooting for you were better actors and Tyra Banks.
Didn't seem that didn't seem fake at all.
No. Also, we are both life sized. That's the only time I can think I
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think that is the only Tyra Banks movie.
You can correct us if we're wrong, but we're history podcast. So we know everything. We can't be wrong. We've never been wrong. It will never be be wrong.
All of our research takes months. We write dissertations every time
I didn't do this a couple of weeks ago and just revisited it like right before recording
that he was practicing names.
Yes. And I'm still probably mispronounced them because I'm a bad person.
Okay, I've got stuff in French on mine so
sorry blue. So this mission largely a failure it was stopped in 1974 unofficially and then completely scrapped and making 76 after you know, the big space race moon stuff had already happened and they lost so they really lost interest. However, we still depend on the Soviet space program and their designs for all American manscape spaceflight, and basically everything involving the International Space Station ever. In fact, ever since the space shuttle was retired in 2011, the Soyuz vehicle which was the one that kept exploding earlier, it's been improved. Don't worry, it's as safe as you can get with space travel has been the only way we can get to in return for Your Space Station.
Yeah, I read a thing recently that it's been, I think over 20 years since every living person has been on Earth at the same time. Yeah, I think it's really interesting after all of these fighting aspects of it, that we now I think always have Americans and Russians up there at the same time doing the work together.
It's really impressive. And the NASA like, NASA is amazing. And our civilian space program is just awesome. But what about space force? Our civilian space program has been, I think, one of the crowning achievements of humanity and space force spaceforce I feel like there's gonna be some really, really fucking excited teenage boys about spaceforce.
I tell you that I've been to that Aaron space annex in DC. So there's the Air and Space Museum, which is amazing. If you get a chance to go go. But then there's the Anik, which has like the whole space shuttle in it, you can go in there be in the room. Welcome. All the way around it see it that way. It's so cool.
I will check that out mixer when you see me shut that up.
We need to travel even better on a trip and a long time.
We have nuts. So speaking of trips, are you ready for some questions? Yes. All right. Let me got teacher face going database going. I just can't do teacher voice. I can't harness the rage.
I can't do teacher voice intentionally it has to come out naturally. And then I get really upset afterwards. Like I've actually just gone into my room and cried because
I don't like it. Oh, it's like you're like possessed by some ancient teaching avatar.
Exactly. Because I was always the teacher who was like, let's talk this out. Let's figure out what's going on. I didn't lose my temper my patients very easily. But when it happened, Austin was there one. I'm still
afraid. I went home and started cleaning.
Actually, I think that's true.
That's powerful force. Don't abuse your voice. So questions. Alright, so we'll alexian Linux VM Test. Yes. All right. Well, the fact that because of budget cuts, we are now dependent on Russia for mass spaceflight on the test.
No, we can't admit that we are ever having any financial
problem. Well, the fact that even though America when the space race, it was actually fairly close beyond the test,
I think it would now
because again, like when we were learning this stuff, it was fairly recent news and they probably wouldn't have made its way to teachers, other than like, was very specialized fields about all this stuff.
1990 we would have been four and five.
I remember when I first learned about any space that I don't think it was ever a focus in any of my classes. I'm sure it came up in elementary school a couple of times, but it was never I don't think it was ever a whole unit. I know we talked about you know, the solar system back when Pluto got the credit it is into it deserves.
I'm going to I'm going to say something controversial. I think I made the right call with Pluto with Pluto. It's not really a planet. It's got an eccentric orbit and it does not behave Like other planets, I think this is the captured like planetoid.
Are you saying kids who are eccentric and don't behave like others deserve to get bullied.
I'm saying that Pluto is not a planet based on the definition of planet as discussed by scientists whose job it is to do these things
awesome has declared that he believes the odd kids deserve to get bullied.
Actually, I have declared that very recently actually. But one very specific odd killer for an adult one of our friends does
outside getting me Austin's a giant bully. I
am still like his lunch money.
Alright, so that is Russian space programs
and also help the bully you were the one just kidding me.
I was stopping the bullying. I was not being a bystander. I was being an upstander
Oh, please tell me that's not something that's actually been uttered in the classroom.
Yes, be a upstander not a bystander which completely ignores the nuances of the psychology that goes into being a bystander. There's a whole psychological concept called the bystander effect in which it is partially someone else will handle Someone else probably already has a little bit. It's why there have been times people have called 911. And something because they assume someone already has. But there's also that fight or flight reflex or it's actually fight flight or freeze now where people aren't going to react, how they're going to react. It's important to note that no one is a bystander all the time. And even the best person on earth is not an upstander all the time. And we forget about the fact that the kids and adults who seek witness bullying are afraid of the bullying coming onto themselves, or that they are afraid of immediate physical repercussions, whatever, you know, I know they've gotten off track here, but it's actually something I really care about because I was really badly bullied. And yes, I do what people have had set up for me, and I don't understand where my teacher has refused to. But as I've gotten to be an adult and studied psychology and worked with kids, I can't be mad at them for not always depending on each other.
This explains a lot actually. Because remember, live in time moving in working not working, but in retail stores. Uh huh. And we've seen someone being an absolute jerk to the people behind the counter, which you shouldn't do anyway. But both of us will stand up for the people working behind the counter and yell at the Karen yelling at them.
Yeah, we saw somebody trying to return an opened bag of cat food. And she's screaming up a sport robot in the counter because she won't take it back. And she think it's store policy. It's on your receipt. And she actually had their seat and she showed her that we can't take the fat. Well, this lady during this also made the mistake of saying I work for an animal shelter, and they would love to have this so she gets one which was well, I'm never going to come here again. I lost it. I go, I don't think they'll miss you. And so she turns on me and then she turns to Austin, and I think she said something along the lines of control your woman.
Okay, first of all, I'm up in Chile, and I couldn't even if I wanted to.
And Austin says, you know, you said you work for an animal shelter that would really like this. Why don't you just bring it there? And that's when sheet left.
Oh yes. My favorite part of it. You said well just wait until my husband gets home and hears about this that was my favorite part like even to this day it's like oh
and then afterwards like I started shaking I am not I'm a I'm a confrontation averse person I don't like being confrontational it's I'm always afraid is going to somehow come back and bite me but I feel like we did the right thing she was being abusive and we like I might give it to me instead I have the option of leaving she doesn't so turn it on to me.
Oh, just do so many times like when someone's been like an unreasonable idiot at the desk. Like I just wish like someone would type up from behind them and talk like even if just like Hey, move it loser. We got stuff to do with places to be I didn't get my stuff done. Even that just like interrupted break the cycle just Help Help a brother out.
Yeah, and all the years I worked retail and food service. I could probably count on one hand the number of times somebody else might said hey, you're not acting appropriately. I did have a customer do that to a co worker. He was being asked me once though, because I actually genuinely liked working retail for the most part you know the bad stories the ones that are more fun to tell but I really liked it and so I would enjoy my job and they say something but all right beautiful let's do this and he started making fun of me for using over the top language and this customer looks at me goes Don't be mad just because she's happy with your life her life and you're not All right, let's get on to my story. Yeah, she is actually about people standing up. Yay. All right, so one of my favorite musicals of all time is Les Miserables friend of mine has this theory that you either like Les Miserables or you like him from the opposite and don't like both
that is that is true for me because I like Les Miserables and you know I can feel the
same hear the music The Phantom is of course beautiful, but I've seen it and like Okay, that was a waste of my three hours, but I do like Gerard Butler was the Phantom in the movie and he was so good and I consider personally insulting that you Continue to do
movies he Oh, he does movies movie. Would you go watch pic was it angel is down his newest one.
You're so beautiful and he has such a voice Why are you doing? Oh my God,
why was it Dr. Butler job there? Yeah. Oh dude dude
like I worked on leamas I've seen it a few times. I actually really love the movie except for Russell Crowe his job there and Sasha Baron Cohen as tonight yet I don't. He doesn't look like the character. I hate that Sacha Baron Cohen is clearly like in the middle of a hissy fit the whole time because he has to sing live. However, there is one major misunderstanding that I'm addressing about this today. It is not set during the French Revolution. It is set during a French Revolution, right? Not exactly. Oh really. It's actually in between the two French Revolution This is a separate thing. In school when people do Les Miserables, they talk about it and they study the French Revolution. actors are dressed Late 1790s French Revolution costumes and hairdos and even Tom Cooper who directed the movie said he agreed to do it because of how much he likes the French Revolution because I directed the whole movie, and apparently thought it was about the French Revolution,
but it's not
know. So the French Revolution itself was May 5 1789 to November 9 1799. Les Miserables begins in 1850.
Oh, we're talking like post Napoleon.
Yes. Whoa. And the battle that's in the show, and I'm talking about it in terms of the show because I actually haven't read the book. I have a hard time getting through Hugo. I tried a few times. Oh, yeah. It's Hugo. I did get through the Phantom of the Opera book because it's real short. That's not Hugo Of course I got through it was real bad. This battle occurs in June of 1832, and is called the June rebellion.
So we're up to 1832. This is like this is the Like the children of the people who are around in the French Revolution, this is like a completely different generation.
Yes, it is that are your early people had kids back then it could be their grandchildren. Yeah, it could be the grandkids. So the French Revolution does inform the general rebel, Jim rebellion. The French Revolution had a lot of causes like all of these things do. Basically the people were being heavily taxed to help the government get out of debt, which resulted in part in the lower classical starving, which was compounded by years of bad crops and the deregulation of the green industry. Meanwhile, the upper classes quality of lives were rapidly improving. And it wasn't just the nobility and the aristocracy. It was the Catholic clergymen who were living our journalists. Well, their Fox were literally dying in the street
so it is commonly believed that the French saw America succeed in its revolution. So they decided to do the same thing, which is that first French Revolution. We also promised our support and didn't follow through but that's a whole other things didn't really improve the They technically when the revolution but then the reign of terror starts in which about 40,000 people were deity and what 40,000 people getting? Oh,
so I assume it was like a couple maybe like 2000 40,000 30,000 that's that's a lot
and I'm talking about people were still starving to death etc, etc. This love Napoleon's take power and he declared himself Emperor until the year before the Lehman story begins. And then the monarchy came back with King Louie the 18th becoming King right when the start and then in 1830 right before the battle and the story starts. We have citizen King Louie Felipe, who took charge and he was actually very well liked at first, because he wasn't just like, I'm a man of the people and he was a lot more energetic and involved and his predecessors, but the income gap and other living conditions became more apparently different. Now we get to the June rebellion, which is also known as the Paris Opera is the time leading up to it. was not too different from the time prior to the revolution except cholera showed up in 1832 18,402 people died in Paris alone with over 100,000 people dying throughout the country Damn it was so bad that poor areas started to suspect the government was poisoning their blog and couldn't find anything that said they were it was just a second
this was this was like still like they're like oh color is caused by bad smell the whole my as my asthma theory,
they seem to know that the water has something to do with it because like all communicable diseases that can be structured dirty water. However, it ultimately killed two well known important people the ladder which ultimately sparks the battle. The first was kasimir Pierre Perrier, who had done his best to avoid military interventions, declared friends the protector of Belgium and he visited a lot of hospitals once cholera broke out.
The day after he visited the hospital he caught the disease and died six weeks later. See, this is why you have to be a bystander. What's happening so you don't get color of then there was john Maximilian Lamarck mark. He's mentioned, I think twice during the musical. That's why I've heard of lamarque. There's a little reminiscent of him during the earlier part you can see cafe and then George's cousins, Lamar is dead. And they give no frame of reference for who low mark is during the show.
I assumed it was love Marky Mark and his funky bunch.
Yes, that's exactly what it was actually, that's in my notes, good. I gather in the novel, it's made a lot more clear who he was. But he was known for being openly critical of the monarchy, and this is a member of the aristocracy. And he was a champion of the people. He defended the liberties people in Poland and Italy, which was popular with the French people as well, because they were dealing with the same stuff did the same thing for his own people. He comes down with cholera and dies on June 1 1832. On June 5, was his funeral and this is where shit gets real people. are following his funeral procession he's in his casket is in a carriage they're following it. There are estimates that up to 100,000 people eventually were there, but it's more likely
just in the 10s of thousands, only 10s of thousands of people.
Now obviously the military is out there monitoring but they are under orders to not let them fire and point which is unusual, given what we learned about France. They were under orders that the people are upset just let them do their thing. Then a group of students sold
the carriage with his body in it. Do you hear people saying
and they redirected it?
So what are you saying like this started with the end of Animal House? I've never seen a whole house. Okay. Imagine what's happening right now except replace funeral with parade and care to the body in it with a float from a rival fraternity.
Okay, yes, the same thing. Cool Animal House is a direct retelling of the June rebellion. They took the Get to the place did I steal where speeches began in favor of Republic over a monarchy it ultimately turned into a riot because somebody brought in a red flag reading liberty or Lamar which means liberty or death and someone begin a fire under thought that then started the people throwing rocks at the military the military shooting back people had guns are shooting up the military mockito off that was there what he said calm us up down. They said fuck you market up murky and then they went on with their business.
What did he rabbit because that's
see that's the problem. If you don't rap something, you don't want to listen to you. That's how
that's how Lafayette won the Revolutionary War, according to Hamilton was he was the best rapper.
So this was the beginning of the June rebellion when those shots got fired, and people began to yell to the barricades.
Okay, and he's singing at this point,
probably honestly, you know how these battles happen.
It was it was it was the fighting hot candlebox snapping. I can't snap. I'm trying to
know we're not talking about rival gang. Oh, we're talking about large scale rebellion. Okay. Now in the musical they imply that the rebellion starts immediately when he dies, as we learned here at support a different I am way over simplifying everything. Like any other rebellion or unrest, there is not one thing that causes it. Like if you think of it like a plot mountain, which they do still teach in school, there was a lot of exposition before the inciting incident. We don't teach inciting incidents for the most part on plot mountain. I didn't hear that term until college, they always have a just be the exposition and then rising action, the inciting incident is what causes the rising action. So this will eventually be on the test kids, the inciting incident is what spurs the action before the rising action can happen. Without it, the exposition would have gone forever.
Oh, I mean, it was a huge novel. So the exhibition does just go on forever. Literature joke,
there were already secret societies made up Republicans who are ready to fight against the monarchy, basically, the opposite of today's republicans are like, I'm gonna fight with the monarchy, even though they're the ones guillotine, everybody. Anyway, the Society of the rights of man was a major one, they were organized like an army, the government have actually banned more than 20 people from hanging out. So they were organizing two groups of exactly 20 each with their own President and Vice Presidents. They had they were like doing military training, they were ready for it. So these are young people, workers and students. This would be like the Gen Z and the millennials coming in to do this mostly Gen Z actually good for you guys. Yeah,
it's like we we fucked up already. Gang. It's your turn. Now. We're sorry.
I'm so excited for my students to become voting age because they are so passionate. There were ultimately about 170 different groups of these secret societies with around 3000 to 4000 people involved in total, yet they still managed to be secret because they were on it. So one of those groups took over the theater. Though the groups were predominantly Parisian young people and students, Polish Italian and German refugees who had run from their own countries to get away from what was happening in France at this point joined them as well. So right when the rebellion began about 3000 people took control of eastern and central Paris that day, his funeral they take up the carriage the shooting starts 3000 people are like, fuck this and take over Paris. So that includes the Cadillac baby Arsenal and the feldberg st and one for one night.
This was only one night. Oh, that's not that's not even enough time for like a couple of good balance.
We've got about 3000 people. The Parisian militia was 20,000 people. And then the National Guard came in with 40,000 50,000 people fighting against these free stuff and kind of like some stuff with roll the Viking Yeah, so this definitely reinforces the dollar saying the National Guard will be harder to catch 40,000 people that gives you like 12, bro. Yeah, they're gonna be hard to catch. Yeah, but You've got
empty chairs, other stuff that's not coming up yet.
Speaking of him, the ABC cafe was not real. The group that he was running the show the barricades were real. So you know, it's all that crap just piled up. Oh, that's what it was. It was crap out of luck because they had not planned for this rebellion to start. They have not been like, okay, we're going to go to a funeral of them start the rebellion. They had no plans in mind. It started naturally, the rebels built them at feldberg St. Martin in the middle of the city. They did this by starting with the young trees that had been replaced planted to replace the trees they had pulled up their last insurrection July, two years before then is are taking things off of nearby construction sites and the red rocks to use as tools put them together. They have nothing. They put these together in 15 minutes. And there were dozens of barricades. It's amazing what you can do when you're fucking tired of the government sheets.
It looks like the like the people in Hong Kong are a little Like piles of bricks to the road to keep like traffic from coming through like that, but not quite as tech savvy I guess.
On top of that they were on arms. Oh, some of them had swords couple of guns. A lot of them have rocks
blowing you that's like use your rock to hammer together a barricade. Now you've a lot of that rock. Wait,
they start always up to cutting is it they started raiding arteries and gunsmiths and stole everything that was in there but then the rebels began to realize they were losing so they start crying out for help because there were most of parents is not happy with the way things are so they in their young teenage naivete are thinking they are on our side they will want to help and no one came to help
to call the only number as
2001 we can do this but who was it that was it wasn't Black Dahlia but that happened with it was the other girl who had a throat slit and everybody can hear it. Nobody called the cops at least they did actually that's kind of a oversimplification. People did but they didn't happen fast enough and most people Didn't get involved. So yeah, the Persians didn't help even though they were being negatively affected. Despite the difference in the number of people the insurgents had about 800 casualties, but the death toll was surprisingly low with only about 93 of them died compared to the only 83 of the military. So that means they managed to kill almost the same numbers were killed of them. But percentage wise they lost a lot
where their cannons because remember, they can't
not that I found in anything. On the morning of June six, they were completely surrounded. And Louie Felipe, the citizen King came out to show everybody he's still here. He's still in charge.
I don't know where he been up until that point golf in
the final battle was at cluttery Sainte Marie Mary in the early evening of June six, and that's where everything salt in the battle took 24 hours. Obviously afterwards, the government portrays them as extremists and terrorists and a claim that only represents a small group of Persian that We're also threats of military law. Then they figured out who was waving the flag. There was a painter named Michael Joffrey, and he was sentenced to death, which was committed to a prison sentence. Then if it wasn't him, the real person was found but they quickly figured out that he was mentally unwell. So he was put in prison for a month and then he was like, Wow, now remember, this is coming after 40,000 people working in team for basically no reason. There were 82 additional trials after this seven resulted in death sentences, all of which were completed the presence of nobody actually got executed as a result of this. The second print revolution happened 13 years later in 1848. They over for over three Louis Felipe, but their victory once again did not lead to long term change. So where was he going?
Yeah. What was she doing during this?
he actually wrote this book because he was there. He was writing a play Harry gardens because of course he was. He starts to hear notifier I'ma go check this out. So he gets up and heat the gates closed the garden, can I go the girls look, I guess. He's instead of going home, which he could have done and the streets are empty, because I'll go check out the gunfire. Somehow he gets stuck between the barricades. And then the gunfire started all around. And so he went up against a wall between two pillars and head for 15 minutes while guns, bullets are shooting past his face the whole time. So he was not fighting on either side. He was just stuck. But because of this book we know about this battle, it likely would have been forgotten by history because it was a blip in the radar. This was one of the very few works that actually delved into it as something that matter, because you know, it's young people and it's young people just acting badly young people in love. Okay, my interpretation of that whole thing's like you know the Mary's what's wrong today? I've never seen him in one That whole part I always get it a sarcastic that Marius is always like this. He's got a new girl he's in love with every week. I've never seen it performed that way I've always had performed earnestly like, Marius you're in love so the first time I believe that where I'm like what I'm hearing when I hear the words is Marius again that really seems more like the conversation guys wouldn't have happened
yeah, yeah, we know it's it's like oh, we gotta go from fun but but it's like if he's like Marius likes like Marius, another one I've never seen you so in love
Yeah, he's the guy that shows up every week. The one in the guys like we will talk about this
is Mary's Ted. Oh God did I just ruin my ms for you
know cuz Marius is kind of like Ted from how big or mothers what we're talking? Yes. But could be worse. He could be Ross Geller, because it looks like he and Cosette actually are happy. Yes. I mean, I don't know. We
don't know if they ever end up on live break. So
since we all listened to say this happens during the French Revolution, I feel like that You could be pissed off because the whole point was that this was this one battle wage but children who died they're trying to save everybody from this dangerous monarchy that was killing people in the streets and not helping them get better not helping them not starve the sounds of my children and now we're for the musical which is more widely witnessed in whatever way than the book The musical it puts it out as the revolution Yeah, so likely miss the barricades are very real things but they also symbolic of what people can do when they're really trying to stand up to the man. Yeah, I mean,
let's go back to that method of Porter's rewashed where that woman was all herself on the street. There was one old lady overnight built a barricade imagine like you know, 3000 like really angry young people. people the way better barricade and then a lady did.
Yeah, I believe it kids, we believe in you and your ability to save the world. Just please don't get into fights with angry French militia
ordinary National Guard, they'll be real hard to catch, they will be very hard to catch.
Are you ready for questions? I am
ready for some questions.
Will the fact that the government deified their own side and called the rebels extremists to be on the test?
Oh, that's a that's a good one. I'm going to say no, but there'll be that one teacher who mentioned that, but as like subtlety, it's like this is a thing that happened and let you draw your own conclusions from that.
That was definitely not me. I always abided by the perfect script. On a history test will the fact that Les Miserables is not set during the French Revolution? On a history test?
Yes. I'm English test. No.
On a theater test.
I think it depends on the teacher and how much research needed.
Well, it's like the teachers like okay, I can tell them the truth, or I can have costuming and sets go real smooth.
Thing is, as long as the kids know what they're actually doing. I don't care about the costumes in a high school. Shower wrong, as long as they're not grossly wrong. I'm okay with it that makes sure they actually know what they're doing. That's only fair.
So you're saying my production of lame is which everyone was wearing hammer pants and sunglasses and we just changed all the songs to MC Hammer. It actually wasn't playing so just MC Hammer the musical. Yeah you calling it lady Miss was barren confusing. It's sold tickets
and will the fact that the rebels hijacked a funeral and stolen coffee figure without the military initially shooting them down beyond the
does Oh my like my heart says yes. But my common sense says no.
I love that though. It's like when Shakespeare stole a theater. You see what's wrong at you in the dark of night or like I'ma take care of this shit. Oh my god, I forgot that Shakespeare stole a theater. I'm going to cover that at some point. I feel like Shakespeare I thought about doing this one Shakespeare episode but I think I'm gonna have to do a few because they're just really interesting little points about them. Okay.
I just love that. This thing about, like this little blip of rebellion involved, Victor Hugo getting lost and ending up in the middle of a revolution and a bunch of students stealing a coffin.
I know. breach. I say I feel like they I think
they took the right direction with this by making it very serious. But I feel there's an argument to make this as re dickless as possible and have it be a farce.
We're going to Weekend at Bernie's, this whole thing. Well, Mike's not dead, the marks not dead.
Let's put some aside. Like a different carries will have like a stick and he'll be waving to the people. And I'm like, Well, someone who's standing behind to bring a puppet thing. And I've
actually never seen Weekend at Bernie's either, but I don't feel like I need to. I have not seen
Weekend at Bernie's. But I know enough.
Yeah. It's one of those that's so far into the normal psyche, but I don't think anybody actually. Yeah. So what did you learn today that they stole
a copy started a rebellion. That's great. I know.
French kids proud of you.
It's like oh my god, I'm okay that's what I want anyone to start rebelling by stealing a coffin but like maybe if you wonder if history this would have happened again by now
be an upstander not a by standard steal a coffin.
Did you learn
to Lexi almost like dying because I never run it. I knew he was the first spacewalk. I didn't know that nothing worked and he probably should not have made it back in
definitely not back down. Yeah, it was like, again, they covered up everything that went wrong, but like first spacewalk, everything was great.
I feel like this is Instagrams of marriages.
Yes, Soviet propaganda was basically the Instagram account of a struggling marriage.
Hashtag over the moon. So anything else we need to put on your calendars Yeah, I think I have laid.
Yes right because I keep getting the disappointing ones and keep
getting like yeah this is so much fun although I finally figured out that in the Funko Pop there's not going to be overnight and I'm so sad there might be she wasn't nothing Obama was she was
it. I gotta Weasley
I got Ron Ron Weasley
I got the sorting cats, a snowman wearing
tables and like flags dance.
So we are on all of the socials or not Instagram.
I just don't normally Instagram I mean, I guess we could put like historical photos or the out of out of context summaries of episodes. I
guess we probably should because I hear the term all the cool kids hang out especially because we're not going to get Tick Tock So
yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm still coming up on fine and that's been gone for a year now.
Rip vine. It's been gone for years plural. Now my little rant I used to use it.
I do remember Lynn, we remember when you use it to, you should start doing stuff again. We miss you. Oh my god. I am so excited about the movie.
Oh my God. That is one of my favorite musicals of all time. I and I actually got to see it on Broadway years ago. Cordon Bleu was the leader, but he was lovely. You could tell he was uncomfortable with the Spanish at that point. I sound pretty soon after he started but it was lovely. It was wonderful. I am not a crier
often can vouch for that. It's true. She cries very few things. She cried during the trailer for lights.
They updated it and they're talking about how they're going to kick her all the dreamer that I am just like weeping. Because you leave my kids alone, you leave them alone. I'm so excited about it.
I'm not excited about the cats moving. Oh, I am excited about the cats movie, but in a like, oh my god what is happening? Like this is like lovecraftian cosmic horror for me. This is a thing that shouldn't be That I cannot stop looking at this is my Necronomicon
I'm telling you though, they looked at what happened with Sonic the Hedgehog and how they had to change the art which took what two years. They were able to change it in less than a month for dozens and dozens of the cats were Sonic, they only changed Sonic. No, that's bullshit. Yeah, they knew that this movie was kind of on that list of things that probably won't do well. So they released it with these horror movie faces to get the thing shared around four. And then suddenly, based on the reaction they changed all the faces and like two weeks that's not a thing. So they always had made like that and they did that to get to get shiners and like, I hate cats. I hate the musical. And now I'm glad to putting apartment and house but are you know,
I feel like cats works best is like this fever dream.
The thing that works about cats on stage is the makeup and the artistry of the technology for it. They took all of that out of this thing and they have CG faces for reasons I will never understand because the music or the makeup is so gorgeous. And there are spectacular makeup artists out there and instead they CG their faces and I don't understand why
I think it's because Taylor Swift can't dance I love you take a but
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